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Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 11:51 PM
To LinIL
Hello there, and welcome to Silentlambs! About your question - - I have a cousin who is something like a deaconess in the Lutheran Church. I am not sure deaconess is the right term, but it is something like that. Some churches are really strict about what they allow women to do or not. That's a shame, because so many women's talents and abilities are not being used. But, you might look for information about the Lutheran Church and also the Episcopalians. I wish you the best and much success with what you are doing! I admire you for it!

Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 11:25 PM
Re: Maluenda
I, too, hope that Maluenda's computer is up and running smoothly again soon, so that she can start posting here soon! I miss her, too. What a caring, kind, and compassionate person she is. And very comforting to the victims! She is truly a great asset to Silentlambs. You are missed here, Maluenda!!

DJB Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 9:33 PM
Healing?
Healing from abuse of any kind takes a long time...for me it has been years and I still am vulnerable and can not be around those who go to the hall...First I make sure the persons around me support me with regards to my stand about not going to the kingdom hall and respect my path to healing. I still believe in Jehovah and bible. Second I try to help others see and understand how terrible the conditions are for children going to the kingdom hall. The children at risk are the ones still going. So when I write I write from where I am at!!!! Those who are JW's who come to this site (as I orginally did) I try to fight fire with fire. What comforts me is seeing how the God of the bible does not approve but condemns the conduct (assault)heaped on the many victims. So I use the scriptures in my comments to point out the error, of the many witnesses who keep taking their children to the hall...The way they handle the victims and predators (petophiles) shows the JW's have become apostate in their practices. I hope others JW's will choose to protect their children from the predators from the hall. These are the ones I primarily write to...I have read a lot from the True Faith JW's ,they primarily separated from the JW's claiming they are apostate. On this point I agree and all court cases won and the many victims accounts support this postion. Just reading my bible on its own convinced me of that(that Jehovah does not agree with what is going on). For me healing requires sharing!!! and having someone listen...here we have a listening ear. Take Care!!!! DJB

charliej Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 8:37 PM
maluenda
Maluenda is a very compassionate and loving person. From what I understand, without talking to her personally, she is just having technical problems. She will be back on in a few days. So what's been going on with all of you, let's all welcome Bonnie Gal to the group!! Love and regards to all.

charliej Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 8:25 PM
Maluenda
JT, Appreciate your interest in Maluenda. I'm sure she will post again as soon as she can. She really loves everyone on this forum and loves being a part of it. Hope all is well with you JT.

J.T. Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 8:12 PM
RE:Maluenda
Be sure and tell her that we ALL miss her posts and hope that she continues to post here. She has comforted so many of us in the past and made us feel welcome when no one else even acknowleged our presence. I can't help but wonder if her posts are being purposely deleted by the moderation team. The last time she posted they mysteriously disappeared off the board. No explanation was given only a blanket, generic answer that had nothing to do with the question posed by someone seeking her out. Is this sight turning into an ultra conservative right wing christian forum that doesn't tolerate people of different beliefs no matter what good they do? Maluenda, if you are reading this and I have offended you by saying such things I apologize. It would be unfortunate if this site lost your gentle kindness and loving attitude toward all here. I'm not blind and have noticed a severe change in the format. I'm not alone.

Jamie J Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 6:45 PM
To Bonnie Gal
Welcome to the site!! I, like you, have not been out of the JW for long. I just turned in my DA letter in March. Fortunately, I have not had any JW's try to contact me. As for not wanting to be preached too, I completely understand where you are coming from. I feel exactly the same way. I've been preached too and told what to believe for so long...I don't want that anymore. I want to be able to investigate other beliefs on my own and determine what I want to believe on my own. It seems that everyone wants to give you advice and quote scripture or invite you to their church. I truly believe that most of them are very sincere in their just wanting to be a friend and encouraging and they just don't understand where we are coming from having been witnesses, especially if you've been one for a long time. They don't understand the difference in being and leaving JW's as opposed to other religions. What I have done is just take a breather. Allow myself to live and allow myself to not have any certain beliefs right now. I have tried my best to express how different and controlling the witnesses are and how those that leave need time to those that offer help. They seem to understand after that and if they don’t I just politely tell them again. As I have questions come up in my mind, I do research on them. I, of course, know what the JW's say on issues. But I will research their reference material to see what it really says and then research online and @ the library further. I only do this when a question comes into my mind,1 thing @ a time, so that I do not overwhelm myself. Writing about what I have found helps me to form my own opinion on those issues. Again, WELCOME, we are happy you are here!

Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 6:21 PM
Bonnie
Bonnie regarding being hassled by witnesses. I'm not going to try to tell you what you should do I simply told them that I have made my decision and their efforts to try to change my mind are not welcome that if they try to contact me I would get a restraining order.. That seemed to work. Sometimes the conversations here may get a little in left field or religious but it doesn't take long to get back on track We try to support each other not to try to advertise anyone's own religious beliefs.

BinIL Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 6:15 PM
SEARCHING FOR INFO
HELLO TO ALL. I WAS A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS FOR 20 YEARS, SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE MINDSET AND THE SEXUAL DEVIANCY WITHIN JW ORG. I AM WILLING TO CONTINUE MY SUPPORT FOR SILENTLAMBS. I HAVE A PRESSING SITUATION AND COULD USE SOME FEEDBACK. CAN ANYONE TELL ME IF THE CHURCH OF GOD HAS SIMILAR SEXUAL MISCONDUCT AND IF THE CHURCH OF GOD IS A CULT? I AM STARTING A MUSIC MINISTRY TO ADVOCATE FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES AND AM HAVING PRAISE AND WORSHIP SESSIONS IN A CHURCH OF GOD BUILDING. HOWEVER, I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH THEIR PRACTICES. ACCORDING TO MY INTERNET RESEARCH, THEY SEEM TO BE NEARLY THE SAME AS JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN THEIR BODY OF ELDERS STRUCTURE. THEY CLAIM TO TO TREAT WOMEN EQUALLY, BUT I DON'T SEE WOMEN IN THE UPPER LEVELS OF THEIR LEADERSHIP ROLES. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE A WOMAN WHO HAS BEEN LED TO MINISTERIAL LEADERSHIP CAN BE WELCOMED WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION. THANKS SO MUCH FOR READING MY CONCERNS.

Modarator 2 Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 6:09 PM
Bonnie Gal
You have come to the right place. That is the very reason that many of us come here rather then some of the other forums because it is a place that we can feel safe, cry on each others shoulders and offer help to one another. There are several who choose to go to other forums when they feel angry and want to shout, and then they come back here. From time to time someone will make a religious comment but the goal of this website is not to bash the witnesses or any other religion for that matter but to support victims. So welcome, and feel free to talk about your own experiences or just listen, and definitely ask for help if you need it.

Moderator 2 Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 5:57 PM
Maluenda
Several have inquired as to why Maluenda has not been posting lately. Don’t worry everything is fine with her she is just having some technical problems. I am very sure that she would be happy that all of you have asked about her. If I talk to her I will pass your messages on to her.

charliej Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 5:45 PM
MT
We would love to see what you find. It would be interesting to know if the polocies are at all different.

Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 2:58 PM
To M.A.N.
Hi, M.A.N., first I want to say that I am very sorry about your health problems, and I hope that you will recover and heal from them! I can understand how you feel about God, kind of, because when my mother was very, very ill and dying from a brain tumor that was taking her away from us more and more each day, I went through a period in which I thought the Bible had to be a hoax. In time those feelings passed, and I don't think it is a hoax anymore, but watching such horrible things happening to a human being was almost more than any of us in our family could take!! I heard someone say once that they think that God suffers with us. The Bible indicates that God feels for every sparrow that falls. Now that's compassion! Anyway, after what you have been through with the Jehovah's Witnesses regarding your daughter, and after what she went through, and after all you have been going through with your wife, I can definitely understand where you are coming from! So, please hang in there, and take very good care of yourself. Maybe your daughter will eventually be able to get the crazy clutter the WTBTS has been pushing down her throat, and she will come to see for herself, on her own what a racket it is, what a sham it is, that it is only a controlling cult after all, and that it most was not there for her when she was molested. Again, hang in there, and take good care of your health.

Bonnie Gal Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 12:17 PM
regarding preaching
I'm glad you brought that up about being preachy. I just turned in my DA letter two weeks ago and the elders are hounding me with phone calls and scriptures and my friends are too. The last thing I want to hear is more scriptures and what I should be believing about God and the bible. Right now I'm not sure. I'm just trying to put my life back together and get some help for my depression caused by years of supressing my abuse. A friend on freeminds sent me here because she said there are a lot of victims that go here for help. So let me know if this is just another believe my way or the highway site so I don't waste your space or my time. I was hoping to meet some victims of abuse and find out how they healed not go back to church.I don't mean to sound gruff but all I've found are hate sites and preaching sites.

NF19 Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 9:43 AM
German word
Zeugen in German means "witness" or "attest to". So it means "Jehovah's Witnesses".

Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 8:25 AM
To Maluenda
I don't know if you saw the post but they said they would give you my email address and forward this to you. _______________Moderator 2 response I will forward the rest of this message to Maluenda for you. Unfortunately your e-mail is not attached to your message so I can't give that to her. For me to give it to her you will have to write it in your next message and I will forward that on to her for you as I did the rest of this message.

mt Monday, June 4, 2007
@ 1:35 AM
Hi everyone
Thank you for you kind words. How beautyfull mentioning the rainbow. Thank you Maluenda and antonia. And to M.A.N. Yes you are right. It's okay to be mad. It is a healing feeling. I just sometimes have been thinking afterwards I have been writing something in anger, that it maby was to hard words. Even though others say to me, that it's okay. But again, it is not okay to abuse anyone. And we are showing it, by getting angry. Showing the world that every molester have to be stopped. In the danish web-site sol.dk, there are only one JW who admit that it happens in the Watchtower. But she write that they are taking care of it. The others denie it. And it makes me so angry, it's because of them it can continue. But now I am getting closer to open my society. I am getting a sketch of the regulations tomorrow. I am looking so much forward to read them. I will let you know when it's a reality. Bless you all and have a nice day.

Moderator 2 Sunday, June 3, 2007
@ 10:14 PM
MAN
MAN makes an excellent point about doctrine. We all should remember the purpose of this forum is for support rather then preaching. Therefore we try to limit the amount of debate about specific doctrine or religious beliefs. But please do not let that stop anyone from posting. Being a victim I can tell you that it is always encouraging to come to this website and see positive things discussed and know that we have friends out there even if we have not met them in person.

M.A.N. Sunday, June 3, 2007
@ 9:10 PM
To Everyone
I don't see this issue too often, but I've seen it enough to realize that some posters could be offended by it. And I have heard of complaints about it. The issue is "doctrine". I've done this also, but I try to limit it to just enough information to make a point on behalf of a victim or to help all who post here to understand something about how the WT works so that they can learn not to fear Bethel any longer. But some people have included several paragraphs on doctrine in their post. Although with they include explains their point, others might be offended because they feel that some are trying to ram their own beliefs down the throats of others with different faiths. I think it would help all of us if we keep in mind that this site is place of comfort and healing. Yes, often a verse or two can help someone feel better in God's eyes or return to God if they have left him. And on occasion, and I've done this, it might be necessary to develop a particular argument against the WT in order to protect and defend a victim. I also have found this to be a necessary tactic. However, sometimes there are posts that are quite long and they contain mainly a type of "preaching the good news" theme. We all are pretty much familiar with the Bible, so it really isn't necessary to retype half of a Bible book to defend a point. Usually a few verses will do the job. I don't know how others feel, but if a poster types in half of a Bible book, how do we know that he isn't a JW trying to "set us straight, correct us, and even counts the time for field service. I know I don't want to provide ANY JW with the means to increase his "service to God". And denying that the WT shelters pedophiles or explaining that Goe will help them someday is offensive to my conscience. I believe, from a psychological point of view, that victims (or anyone) who post here, will heal more quickly if they describe their feelings using their own words. It's the same as during the WT study when people just read the paragraph back to the conductor instead of putting it in their own words. So if a person's point is contained in say, the 4th chapter of Mark, then instead of posting the whole chapter, perhaps they could post the few verses that make the point. The reason for all this is that some people don't think it fair to type in 3 chapters of their holy book, yet others do it all the time. Our posts will be more effective and hard- hitting if they are to the point without extra material. By all means, please post things that helped you heal or that you think will help others. I'm just suggesting that we keep this guestbook to the point and always on topic. Please don't misunderstand me. We all need to be heard and to know that there are people here who want to listen and help us. But a few posts are so long that too many points might be made and the reader gets lost. Usually side points are not that necessary to state our case. I know this post was long, but I had 2 reasons: First, all this had to be said. Secondly, it's a good example of exactly what I've been saying. My best to all.

charliej Sunday, June 3, 2007
@ 7:50 PM
alex anointed.
Alex my wife makes a very good point about the number of those claiming to anointed. There is no proof offered it is only taken for granted that the information the society gives is the truth. All the average publisher knows for sure is how many are in their own congregation. Other then that, along with everything else, they simply have to trust the GB.

Charliej Sunday, June 3, 2007
@ 7:25 PM
Antonia
Welcome to the guest book. Don't give your english writing skills a second thought, we are happy to have you. I have spoken and written english all my life and most of the time can't do it correctly myself. Will you please explain what zeugen jehovas is?

charliej Sunday, June 3, 2007
@ 7:21 PM
Alax
Alex, Earl was correct, I remember being at the convention when they announced the "new light” about the generation, and it was basically changed so that a date or even time span can not really be applied to it. As far as the number of surviving 144,000. The last info that I have is from their 2004 yearbook, which states that in 2003 they had 8565, partaker during the memorial. I don't know how many they claim are still believe to be of the anointed.

Sunday, June 3, 2007
@ 4:00 PM
To Antonia
Hi, Antonia, welcome, and please keep coming back! The pedophilia in the Jehovah's Witnesses IS shocking and horrible! Please don't worry about your English! You should see my German. Not. About the only thing I can say in German is good morning, and I'm not sure I can spell it right. So, I won't try. :-)

Sunday, June 3, 2007
@ 3:50 PM
To MT
Hi, MT, Maluenda is right, I made a mistake when I called you KT. Duh. I think I may have been having a senior moment, since I seem to have one about every other moment! :-) And, Maluenda is also right about the rainbow. I'm going to think of you as the rainbow maker from now on!! :-) Rainbows are beautiful, gorgeous, and they are definitely worth all the rain that falls. So, keep up the good work!

antonia from germany Sunday, June 3, 2007
@ 12:41 PM

hello everyone... its sad to see that so much children are silentlambs. i make a speech of the zeugen jehovas and i was so shocked about this page. i hope it changes all. bye antonia from germany sorry i can´t write so good english

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