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Chris Ratley Wednesday, June 30, 2010
@ 3:35 PM
Hey family!
This is a wonderful place for like people to meet and find comfort. Thank you silent lambs for all you have done and will do for innocent victims of abuse by the WTBS. To the rest, my roommate recently killed himself as he could no longer cope with the memories of the rape he endured at the hands of a circuit overseer as a young man. He didn't know about Silentlambs in time, you do. Here is your safe haven!! I love you all and I am a survivor myself of the evil empire of Jehovah's Witnesses. I have lost my family, all my friends and anyone I ever knew to my disfellowshipping. You are NOT alone!! My email is chris_ratley2010@yahoo.com if any of you need to talk ever!!

M.A.N. Tuesday, June 29, 2010
@ 11:08 PM
Herbert von Deutschland
See, it's been 45 years since German third year in HS. Use it or lose it. LOL. You made some good points. Their hinting at being more than human is starting to get creepy. They sound just like the Pharisees. "Worship us or die. Why? Jehovah said so. Where in the Bible? We don't have to show you, are you calling us liars?" The gentle and naive ones wouldn't go that far. I'd say "Yes you are liars, show me and if you can't, you're going to have a big problem." I've been in touch with newspaper writers who had done interviews at Bethel about policies and the elders flat out lied. I found out and called the authors. They tried to contact the original lying elder but then he wouldn't see them. They are such weasels. If there are apostles and if they are watching from Heaven or anywhere, I'm sure they are weeping for the children and asking the nearest angel to borrow his sword just for one day. The GB have no place to hide. They created this monster, now let them care for it. M.A.N.

Herbert from Germany Friday, June 18, 2010
@ 2:33 PM
man 711 and M.A.N., re: apology
Hi, you'll never in your lives experience that the WT leaders will apologize for their crimes in protecting pedophiles. They consider themselves as semi-gods, and half- gods never excuse. Half-gods? Yes, in their New World Translation they denote Christ Jesus as "main mediator" at four scriptures (Acts 3:15; 5:31; Hebr. 2:10; 12:2). "Main mediator" implies that there are other mediators next to Christ as well -- they themselves or, for that matter, their 144,000, standing between God and man. We have a rude saying in Germany: "Ich kann gar nicht so viel essen, wie ich manchmal kotzen möchte." [I cannot eat as much as I sometimes want to vomit.]

PCW Thursday, June 17, 2010
@ 6:48 AM
M.A.N. and all of Silentlambs family
Hi, Just wanted everyone to know that although I have not posted in a while, I promise all that I peruse the website as often as I can and enjoy the encouraging comfort offered to victims. Please know that you are in my prayers. Peace and love.

M.A.N. Monday, June 14, 2010
@ 9:13 PM
Re: man_711
To be honest, I don't think the WT or GB will EVER apologize. They won't even do it a little bit in that round-a-bout way they did in 1980 about being wrong about 1975. And even then, they blamed it on some vague JW's as if they hadn't ever mentioned 1975 ever. They ignored the years of building up all JW's world-wide. In 1980, they printed a quote something like,"Some of the brothers read more into the Scriptures than the verses were really saying." There was another sentence or two but you can look it up. If they took five years to apologize about a doctrine that no one who was NOT a JW cared about, they won't EVER mention something that entails thousands of crimes and each one being covered up by the WT. They've denied there are pedophiles for decades. They've said the few that have been discovered have been expelled or punished. Yet many still serve as elders. They just CANNOT admit all these crimes. They would be sued out of existence. They don't have the money that the Catholic Church has. But worse yet, they demand that all JW's and the world view them as holy, perfect, and better than ANY other religion. Admitting ANY of these crimes would put them on the same level as the Catholic Church or even lower since they lied about it for so long and so blatantly. It's just not going to happen in my opinion. M.A.N.

man_711 Sunday, June 13, 2010
@ 1:03 PM
apology
When will the the "faithful and discreet slave" publicly appologize for child molestations? Even the Pope has done this. Why do they refuse to acknowledge the issue? Why do they refuse to change their policies?

M.A.N. Wednesday, June 9, 2010
@ 8:19 PM
Re: Raymond Franz
I just wanted to say again how much Ray will be missed, especially by the thousands of people that he helped. His books alone freed many thousands of people from the fear and guilt that had been taught them and forced upon them by the WT and the GB members, as well as the various "writers" employed by the Jehovah's Witnesses cult. His personality was well reflected in his books, particularly "Crisis of Conscience". He was never negative toward individuals, although many had slandered him, lied about him in the WT publications, and violated the majority of the teachings in the Bible. He used logic, kindness, and clear and fair reasoning whenever he made a point concerning Bible teachings. He didn't put forth personal beliefs or interpretations like the WT does. He always allowed the Scriptures to speak for themselves. In my 60 years of life, and 40 of those years being aware of the WT's teachings and dealings with its members, I've learned that life holds many ironies. One very common irony was endured by Ray. That was the fact that the majority of JW's believed Ray to be an enemy of God for the past 30 years. Yet the reality was and still is, that Raymond Franz was a champion FOR God and the Bible. Although the WT now no doubt believes he has been silenced, such will never be the case. His books will live on, his courage will inspire others to continue to expose religious cruelty and hypocrisy, and how he lived his life will be an example that will endure forever. Now those of us who know the REAL "truth" can continue to help those victims who have suffered much due to the WT's criminal policies. We still have much to do and as always, I thank Bill Bowen for his work in keeping this site alive and urge all who can to help by assisting financially, by warning others of the pedophiles that this religion protects, and to always be alert for opportunities to do the right thing in life, no matter what the cost. My best to all. M.A.N. from Florida.

ALM Tuesday, June 8, 2010
@ 8:49 PM
Pedophilia
I was a JW for many decades, but no longer. Are there any statistics comparing the number of pedophilia cases in other religions/denominations compared with Jehovah's Witnesses? Understanding the comparison in no way diminishes the unfolding tragedy inside the WT, or the suffering of the victims, or the injustice that has been/is being committed in the name of 'religion.'

Oke Helle-Bror Saturday, June 5, 2010
@ 3:15 AM
Raymond Franz.
Raymond Franz. Raymond and Cynthia will always been in our prayers. He was the most humble man I ever had contact with. I wrote this him to him August 27: Dear Raymond, something terrible has happen to our family, our daughter Mette's 21 year old daughter Jessica was killed in a car accident yesterday, Wednesday. Mette asked me today if you could help us with some guidance for the funeral service, just a little talk. You are the only one who can help us now in this sad situation. We just sit and cry. Please help us. Kind regards Ole Helle-Broe, Australia. The same day, August 27, he send us this comforting letter: Dear Ole and family, We were very sorry to hear of the death of your granddaughter, Jessica. I am sure it will take some time for you to adjust to the loss, and even more so on the part of her mother. God’s Word recognizes the uncertainty of life and the unpredictable circumstances that can occur, as Ecclesiastes 9:11 says “time and chance (unforeseen occurrence) happen to all.” God’s Son was himself moved to tears on seeing the grieving of Lazarus’ sisters at the time of Lazarus’ death. (John 11:33-35) Even as the greatest appreciation of water comes with being very thirsty, and of food when being very hungry, or of sleep when being extremely tired, so too one can appreciate the crucial value and beauty of the resurrection hope, and the strength it gives, most particularly when experiencing the loss of a loved one, or when facing death oneself. The Scriptural knowledge shared by you and your family that death is comparable to sleep and that those sleeping in death can be awakened from that sleep by Christ’s call awakening them to return to life (John 5:25, 28, 29) aids tremendously to give relief to sorrow, so that as Christians we “may not grieve as do others who have no hope.” (1 Thessalonians 4:13, 14) You have the hope of seeing Jessica again and should feel even more motivated to faithfulness in your service to God and his loving Son who will make that possible. I completed 88 years of life in May and Cynthia reaches 76 in August, so we both recognize that the time remaining for us is not great. One thinks of the words of the psalmist, “Our years come to an end like a sigh. ” (Psalm 90:9, 10) While “our outer nature is wasting away, our inner nature is being renewed day by day,” as we look “not at what can be seen but at what cannot be seen,” not at the temporary, but at the eternal, having entrusted ourselves to “a faithful Creator.” (2 Corinthians 4:16-18; 1 Peter 4:19) As regards a “funeral service” this is entirely a matter for personal choice. For myself, following my death I would personally prefer not to have some formal service held in a “funeral parlor” but would prefer that those of my friends who are able and would care to, would come to our home to meet with my wife and join together in comforting her, recalling whatever pleasant association they had had with me, and any experiences of worth and value that resulted from this. But as I say, that is only my personal preference and is not presented as something for others to be guided by. Mette’s wishes should be given priority and if she feels a regular funeral service is best then that is what you should do. In that case, as family head you might preside in discussing the wonderful hope God provides in his Word, and perhaps then give other family members the opportunity to each make their personal expression. Again these are only thoughts and whatever choice your family makes is the one to be governed by. We wish you God’s help now in reconstructing your life after this loss and I trust that your giving mutual support and comforting one another will give added meaning to the daily life of each of you. Our sincere regards and sympathy, Ray and Cynthia A part of this was used at our grand daughters funeral service. Thanks Raymond, you was always there with an answer. YOU WILL BE MISSED BY THOUSANDS.

Herbert from Germany Thursday, June 3, 2010
@ 2:12 AM
Everyone and Milena Joy
Dear Milena, I don't know either why Ray did not mention the severe child abuse in the WT organization in his work. But Jim Penton does now. In his revised version of "Apocalypse Delayed" [Endzeit ohne Ende] in German, which will soon be published, there is a longer paragraph about the problem.

Milena Joy Wednesday, June 2, 2010
@ 11:37 PM
Raymond Franz has passed
For those of you who don't know, Ray was pronounced dead at 1:37pm EST time today, 6/2/10. Although it is too bad he died without having publicly acknowledged the severe child abuse problem created & maintained by WT policy, his book Crisis of Conscience helped so many open their eyes to the other atrocities of the WT society. For whatever reasons, he was unwilling to publicly acknowledge the child abuse issue. Maybe it was guilt over his part in creating the two witness policy, or guilt over other related issues that have yet to be made public. So, as conflicted as I feel about him, I do appreciate that his books helped many witnesses make the bold, brave, sane decision to leave the WTBTS. Ray will never be forgotten. He lives on.

M.A.N. Wednesday, June 2, 2010
@ 4:53 PM
Everyone
Herbert: I didn't know how well you knew him. I'm a part- time author, and "Crisis of Conscience" is one of the most logical and fair books I've ever read. He proves his statements and never lowers himself to the level of the WT writers. The WT makes any statements they want, twist the Bible verses to TRY to prove their opinions, and DF anyone who dares to question them. It's black and white. Ray's honesty and integrity are beyond reproach.

DALO Tuesday, June 1, 2010
@ 7:49 PM
Ray
Very Sorry to hear about Ray Franz. His Books, along with James Penton, James Kostelniuk, & others helped me in seeing how brainwashed I was. I have now left the Jws. I knew J.Penton as a young man in Toronto Bethel while he was doing reaserch, and James Kostelniuk in Vancouver. Wherever you are God Bless you. Dalo

Alex A. Tuesday, June 1, 2010
@ 7:05 PM
False Religion's End is Near!
I am so happy that people are coming together against this abusive, controlling, manipulative organization. We cannot stand by and let them continue to hurt our friends and family members.

Herbert from Germany Monday, May 31, 2010
@ 11:06 PM
re: Ray Franz
Dear M.A.N., I'm still shaken for I lost a fatherlike friend. And I'm the translator of both his books in German. So we had a close connection. As some of you might still know I have also quarrels with my family: My sister makes me responsible for the fact that she was sexually abused by her father when she was five. But how could I do anything at that time? I was just nine; we were both children -- and so vulnerable.

M.A.N. Monday, May 31, 2010
@ 5:41 PM
Re: Herbert (von Deutschland)
Herbert, wie geht's? I just asked Herbert how he was doing. I am very sad to hear that about Ray Franz. If it's true, the world has lost a brilliant man who kept his integrity. I consider him to be about the only sane man on the GB since that arrangement began. He always insisted on letting the scriptures be their guide and NOT past WT articles or the opinions of very old men who had not lived normal lives in the real world. His books where masterpieces of logic and truth with no malice toward those still blinded by the WT and its dogmatic pride. I've written many articles in my life and Ray was an author of the highest caliber. My best. M.A.N.

M.A.N. Monday, May 31, 2010
@ 5:25 PM
To SL
First to SL: Your message caught my eye because SL is used so often for Silent Lambs. I didn't know if you were Bill or a moderator, then I read your message. I will never stop exposing these perverts. I was concerned about a few personal things but have worked them out. I also have heart disease and sometimes have good and bad times. I've been in the computer field since the 1980's and have read almost every book the WT ever printed. So I can do the most good for victims using my knowledge of the Internet and doing research. I also mention that I have a BA in Psychology from time to time so new people will know I do my best to understand the dynamics of child abuse. The WT doesn't care about people. They care about money, power, position, ego, and the "good name" they believe they have with the world and the "approval" they think they have with "Jehovah God". THEY HAVE NEITHER!! Many people here in Florida call the police when they start door to door and they've been thrown out of many neighborhoods. When I see them, I go to the next street and tell everyone I see. No one in my little street of 20 houses will talk to them because I shared my story with them about my daughter's abuse because of their policies. I read one post a year ago made by a JW servant who said he was going to kill the next person who "defamed God's people". Saying things like that here in Florida can get you arrested or shot. And what kind of thing is that to say? Would Jesus talk that way? We can all help. You can visit your local police and tell them (bring proof found on this site) that known pedophiles are in the neighborhood going door to door. Print out and show the police the "murder letter" where the GB tells the elders not to report a known murderer who was associated with the congregation. And if possible, despite the economy, maybe send a few dollars to Silent Lambs. Every little bit helps. Bill Bowen broke his leg less than a month ago and I'm sure he has his hands full keeping everything going. My best to all. M.A.N.

Herbert from Germany Monday, May 31, 2010
@ 6:30 AM
Sad news regarding Ray Franz
Dear friends, I have sad news to announce. Today, Monday at 4:22 AM German Time (that is Sunday, 10:22 PM your (Central American) time) I got an email from Jim Penton in Canada. It reads: Dear Herbert, I have bad news to report. Ray Franz fell down, and hit his head this morning. He evidently had a stroke. He is brain dead and will probably be taken off life support shortly. So in all intents he is dead. We will all miss him terribly. Notify the friends and pray for his wife who is not well at all. Blessings in Christ, Jim

SL Monday, May 24, 2010
@ 10:23 AM

I have been reading the articles and clicked on this guestbook and am in shock by all of this! How can this be happening! A victim is a victim! How can they try to hide this! MAN keep up with comments and we need to step up on fighting for these victims who are being kept silent by fear--by the elders!

M.A.N. Thursday, May 20, 2010
@ 4:03 PM
To BO and Sydney P.
Jesus wouldn't even condemn a prostitute, yet the elders want to regulate the sex lives of adult JW's. Perhaps if they concentrated more on the perverted sex lives of the thousands of pedophiles they hide and protect, we'd all be safer. The average JW might be okay, but the elders and those above them are skanks. They break every rule in the Bible and then condemn the world for doing the very same thing. I've never seen such hypocrisy in my life. Jesus would throw up if he was here today and they gathered around him thanking him for the "blessing of being his people". I'm sure he'll say, "Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness! I never knew you!!" Sound familiar?? Does to me. Sydney, you are correct to go public. Tell the authorities that the elders intervened. Obstructing justice is a crime. I know if I find a pedophile, he won't be allowed to "go home". We can do forms of citizen's arrests here and I'd do that one in a heartbeat. To WT lurkers: Are you proud of yourselves? You think this is Christian? You often laugh that you've outwitted the world. Soon you won't be here anymore. Guess who laughs last?? That's right, those who did the right thing, and NOT JW's. I wouldn't want to live one day in a world with you lying weasels.

BO Monday, May 10, 2010
@ 1:32 PM
Glad I left the JW's..
Thanks all of you for posting all this information. I knew something was not right when we were studying with the Witnesses in Fremont, CA during the early 90's. An elder came to our house with the husband from our study team - Tony Hansen. Tony went off into another room with my husband and the elder (can't remember his name) asked me about our private sex life and if we had oral or anal sex or not. I was flabbergasted. My husband thought I was nuts throwing them out of the house. I guess people don't usually tell the elders to get the F*** out the house. The elder fell off his roof a week or so later and I remember thinking that karma worked. I had already been ready to call it quits with them because they wanted me to start hitting my 2 year old when she wouldn't sit still all day Saturday & Sunday and I wasn't allowed to sit in the lovely furnished nursery that had the sermon piped in "just to allow her to manipulate me". The questions about our sex life did it for me and after reading your site, boy am I glad I did what I did. Bless you all and hope you all heal fully.

sydney p. Friday, May 7, 2010
@ 4:47 PM
it never ends
Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this site. I have been reading here for a few months and I first came here to read so I could find out if I'm alone or not. I have been fighting for years to get my local elders and the WT HQ to listen to me regarding horrific rape and abuse I endured my entire childhood. I even broke the "rules" and went to the police. There is an outstanding warrant for my abuser, should he return to the state where the abuse happened but the small town we lived in cannot afford extradition. I had the chance a year ago to see him arrested as he returned, but the elders got to him first and told him to go home so he could avoid arrest. I wish I could say more. I've felt so betrayed all my life. My abuser, despite overwhelming proof, is an elder and a pioneer in his home congregation. I know he's still hurting others. He was too violent and sadistic to just quit. But WT won't listen to me. Now, I'm about to be disfellowshipped for speaking up and bringing it into the public eye. All I can say right now is thank you to those who've kept this site running and thank you to everyone who shares their stories. It helps me get through another day.

M.A.N. Thursday, May 6, 2010
@ 1:18 PM
Everyone
Again, my advice is to contact a lawyer and definitely tell the police. The name Kimberly Norris sounds familiar, she may be the lawyer who helped abuse victims for free. Before you visit both the police and a lawyer, try to have all the details in order and written down so that they can study your case quickly and can let you know what can be done. I am not surprised that they ignored your deadline and ultimatum. The WT thinks it owns the Earth so they will never allow a "puny non-anointed human" and especially a woman, to tell them what to do. There are only TWO things the WT understands in cases like this. FORCE and MONEY. When they are sued, you'll get their attention. And if any are put in prison, they will suffer. Pedophiles often become victims of the very crimes that they committed against innocent children. I find it very odd and twisted that a jail filled with violent men will object to pedophilia with far more outrage than the Watchtower leaders will. Considering that the JW's arrogantly claim to be god's ONLY approved people on earth, it appalls me that they could EVER say that with a straight face. But, they DO! It's like Adolph Hitler claiming to be the kindest leader who ever lived. In addition to telling the police and a lawyer, you might want to ask the lawyer and police how soon you can **call the local newspaper.** You'd be surprised at how well that works. The WT HATES that type of publicity. They will try to put a "spin" on it and say the world is run by Satan but we all know better. They've already paid victims millions of dollars in compensation. They cannot afford to do that for every victim. Everyone fears them it seems. Well, the WT is selling off its property in NYC and letting people go. That doesn't sound like they are growing, does it? Please don't let them scare you. Any victims can get a restraining order. If the pedophile violates it, he'll be in jail very quickly. Tell the police if there is any intimidating behavior from any pedophile. I hope things work out for you. M.A.N.

kdnorris Monday, May 3, 2010
@ 10:57 AM
Legal Help
If you are a victim of child sexual abuse which occurred in the context of a JW congregation, and would like to know if you have a legally viable remedy (i.e. a lawsuit), see www.lovenorris.com, or contact Kimberlee Norris at kdnorris@lovenorris.com.

Emmy Cooley Wednesday, April 28, 2010
@ 11:43 AM
What can I do?
Its been more than 15 years since I left the Org. And more than that since I was abused. I recently gave my family and the Organization one month to right this wrong themselves, therefor making them look like the good guys who care enough to take care of the congregation. The month is up on Friday. And I am ready to take action myself but I don't know what to do or where to go to get the ball rolling. This I figured was the one place that I might be able to find some advice on making it happen. Any suggestions? emmylou.d1974@gmail.com thankyou!

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