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JME Saturday, May 19, 2007
@ 7:14 PM

Be sure to watch and pass around this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlRHaO0y4ro

Janet Bowen Saturday, May 19, 2007
@ 3:45 PM

To M.A.N. & MT, It is an honor to stand by your side and do whatever possible in helping give ANY who feel like they were victimized by Watchtower. It takes a strong person to stand up for what is right - even to the extent of losing everything (especially family). Thanks for coming here and posting and helping our Moderation Team. You all are in many ways bolstering thousands up, where they need support. Oh, and a great big thanks to Maluenda for always saying loving and kind thoughts. You are worth more than gold itself.

Mod Team 1 Friday, May 18, 2007
@ 8:02 PM
To: Justin Time
Hi Justin. I just wanted to let you know that I have been thinking about you a lot the past couple of days. I've been praying very hard to the God who loves all of us that you are safe, happy, and feel very loved where ever you are in this world. I did mean it when I said I cared about you. I just wanted you to know that someone was thinking about you and wishing you well! Have a great weekend

Maluenda Friday, May 18, 2007
@ 7:57 PM
To LLP
Welcome LLP. It seems every day we have someone new who reports the same thing-horrific abuse. I'm so glad you found us here. I just wish we could meet here because we're trying to start a recycling guild or something not because we have been hurt by this awful cult. This is truly a huge family. People who post here regularly and stay in touch with us get to know the many loving people on here who support and truly care about one another. I hope you'll join us! Feel free to ask questions , share ideas, vent, cry, encourage, support, feel the love and give the love we all need. Blessings and welcome!

LLP Friday, May 18, 2007
@ 6:37 PM
abuse in the name of god
I am a 36 year old survivor of the JW cult. I was abused in every way shape and form all in the name of god. I feel for every survivor in here and for those who have been brainwashed such as myself into thinking that if you don't conform to the ways of these hypocrites then you are all destined to die at Armaggeddon. To me the wittnesses are no different then the Jim Jones cult and any other cult in the world where a bunch of men lord their made up positions over you. My heart bleeds and aches for the children that are subjected to this lifestyle and to the abuse suffered at the hands of these twisted men.

Friday, May 18, 2007
@ 2:08 PM
To MT
You are a very loving and kind person, and it is such a pleasure to have you here at Silentlambs! I hope your recovery goes well for you and that you hang in there and take good care. Be sure to do a lot of self-nurturing things. I didn't suffer the abuse so, so many of you did in the Jehovah's Witnesses religion, and I, too, have been out of that cult for about twenty years. However, I still can feel at times some toxin of some kind in my system from having been a JW. Take all the time you need to recover, and know that you have a loving family here at Silentlambs. We are all your friends here, as well as your family, and our hearts go out to you. Indeed, we carry you around in our hearts. Take good care. Be well and happy.

Maluenda Friday, May 18, 2007
@ 7:24 AM
To MT
The heart always speaks louder than words. Your breakdown is very common. We all gothrough it and even though I have been out for over twenty years I still have monents of utter darkness. The negativity and hopelesssness of knowing these people that you once loved as family are still trapped and all the children who are suffering is overwhelming. But you are right each time it happens you grow a little stronger and there is light at the end of the tunnel. Blessings to you!

mt Friday, May 18, 2007
@ 12:51 AM
Real family
Thank you maluende, Janet and Jamie J for your answers. I have been thinking a lot about this after leaving JW. I have found so much true love, among the people outside the walls. The friends me and my husband have got, shows how much they really care about us, and coming to different's forum's incl. here, and meet people who really mean what they write, really show from their heart, that you are somebody and dare showing the love inside them selves, are telling me, that JW cannot be Gods true organisition. I could never be my self, and when I was I always got pushed down. So they say, that when you become a JW, you got a world of family, so saying godbye to relatives dos'nt matter, because you get a much bigger family. What a lie. I now say, get out of JW, and get the real loving and caring family. I hope so much Bill's mother wil realise that some day soon. When I write here, I feel safe, because I can be the person I am. This is "only" a home- page, but the love get to me anyway, it show's so clearly. And I am glad that inspide of lanquages, you can understand me. It is so difficult for me to describe feelings in danish, so I am happy that you do know what I mean. I now have some day's, where I am taking a litle break, from working with uncovering the witnesses and helping x-witnesses, because I suddenly got a breakdown. I am going through feelings that hurts, because I am realising with my heart now, what I have been knowing for some time now, that the believe I had, was false. I know it had to come, but still its hard. I will recower and when I come back and continue my work, I will be so much stronger, strong enough to face my family, when I go public with the scandinavian work, witch I believe will come up running in July or August I hope. I wish you all a very good weekend and thank you all. God bless you all.

Mod Team 1 Thursday, May 17, 2007
@ 7:53 PM
To Justin
I would just like to add a flip side to the coin. Silent Lambs decides which cases are posted on the homepage and distributed in the newsletter. Laws vary greatly from state to state and what may be allowable in one state is not allowed in another state. So what may be stated in a brief may not confide all the terms, conditions, or facts of a case. Each state dictates what is allowed or necessary. Bill and his wife are often contacted because they have had so much experience in dealing with class action attorneys and cases as well as private attorneys and cases. Bill is privy to a lot of imformation that we are not even if we read the brief or any other court documents. Having a law background I can tell you that things are much more involved than they appear to the general public. As far as the abuse is concerned ,where it occurred makes no difference. It's the fact that occurred, someone had the oppurtunity to prevent it or to expose it so that other children would not fall victim and they chose to remain silent. That's where the fault lies. Failure to report a crime, a crime against an innocent helpless child. In regard to not naming her father there are several legal reasons for this which I'm not going to go into here but I can say that it is a psychological fact that children, even adult children, who have been horrifically abused all still seek the love and affection of their parents. I have often found it hard to implicate my own father for his role in allowing children to be victimized when he had the power to stop it. This is because it is natural to love and want the love of those we are genetically and emotionally attached too. Finally, I think you should know that it is illegal for anyone who advocates in any type of case to recieve compensation. Therefore, Bill despite all the time and effort he puts into these cases receives nothing. Not one dime of compensation from the courts, attorneys, or victims. Silent Lambs is run solely on the contributions of it's members. We have all experienced abuse in some form in our life. Some people have experienced horrific abuse, others have experienced minimal abuse. What we all must remember is that it is all relevent to our own experience. I can't tell you that what you suffered was minimal because to you and your experience it may have been the worst thing you've ever known and affected you deeply. There is always someone who had it better and someone who had it worse than you. So we have to remember not to judge others because we don't know everything that goes on. I'm so happy to see you growing Justin. This last post presented your opinion in a positive manner. When I say you are loved here-I mean it. We want to help and be here for you.

justin time Thursday, May 17, 2007
@ 6:04 PM
Kindness
Thank you for your kindness. However, it appears from the facts of the Popper lawsuit that she was abused at home. It does not appear that she reached out to the elders for help and was refused, thus allowing the abuse to continue. If she, or I was abused at home without the knowledge of elders, the WTB&TS is not responsible for our abuse. I agree that Bill seems reasonable after talking to him, but I question whether he is fully weighing the implications of such matters as allowing the posing of the Popper litigation. That is one reason I am upset. Assuming this site is sincerely motivated, this would be an improper imposition on that motive. Posting a lawsuit authored by a practicing lawyer such as Melanie Popper for abuse she suffered at home, I believe, is highly improper. Her motive appears only to be for the purpose of a shakedown of the WTB&TS or trolling for clients.

justin time Thursday, May 17, 2007
@ 5:00 PM
What's Next
Don't you love me anymore? ___________________________________________________________ _Silent Lambs Moderation Team Reply: Yes, Justin, we do love you and our hearts all go out to you. As we have stated many times before, posts that are degrading to members of this site or to any human being will not be posted . Compassion for the victims of child abuse, their families , and friends remains the theme here. There are many other sites that allow posts that threaten and bash victims and other peoples views. If you want to degrade others perhaps they will welcome you on their forum. We know you have the capability to post supportive and uplifting comments. When you do they will be posted for all to read. When you behave in a childish, negative, and disruptive manner I'm afraid we will have to delete your comments no matter what name you post them under. The choice is yours-delete or post. But the rules are the rules. The only reason why we do not ban you from the site completely is because the team feels that you are probably an abuse victim yourself and are displacing the anger you feel towards your abusers to the members of this site. That is a reaction that some victims experience. Since most of your posts are directed towards Bill it makes one think that you have directed your anger at him since he fights to save children from abuse but couldn't save you. So you are allowed to remain here out of love and hope that one day you will have released ALL the anger and hatred in your heart and we will help you to learn to love again and feel compassion for others. We do wish you love, peace, and happiness Justin. Our work here will never be done as long as there are victims out there crying for help either directly or indirectly. We hear your cries Justin and we are here to help when your ready.

M.A.N. Thursday, May 17, 2007
@ 3:18 PM
Re: media contacts
I lived in or near NYC for 50 years. There are hundreds of cable stations. Several universities, colleges, and even high schools have radio and/or TV stations. You know what groups might want this story? How about religious colleges? I'm sure the WT will say this isn't playing fair, but when have they ever done that? In Wheaton, ILL, there is a large Bible college. In NYC there are several. How about the Mormons in Utah, Pat Robertson, and the rest. I see Jim Bakker (PTL:pass the loot) is again on TV here on our cable station in Florida. I'm sure the Baptists and Fundamentalists would love to do a story about these abuse cases. I don't like wording it this way, but this is war. If you want to get through to your enemy or beat him, wouldn't it be a good idea to find others who are also enemies of the WT? They then could be allies in this battle about child abuse. And we've all read several complaints against the WT for their latest tract on hiding sexual perverts and we have seen many outraged Catholics bashing the WT for doing for 100 years the exact same thing it accused the Catholic Church of doing. Sauce for the goose, right? Just an idea. I emailed Montel Williams a few years ago when I lived in NJ. I believe he's based in Philly. If anyone lives up there, it might be worth a try. My best to all.

mkb Thursday, May 17, 2007
@ 10:56 AM
Call to Fox News
I just called that number (888) 369-4762 to leave an idea for a news story and the mailbox was full. Trust me, I will be calling back on a daily basis, and I encourage the rest of you to do the same! God Bless You All!

M.A.N. Wednesday, May 16, 2007
@ 4:20 PM
To Janet Bowen
I also lost my family because I gave my support to Silent Lambs. And since most of us long since gave up "worldly" friends, if we lose our families, we usually have no one left. But here on SL we all can enjoy a large family of people who love one another "just because". Not because the WT orders you who you can like or not, but based on the love taught in the Bible. I think that God prefers His type of love being practiced in the world rather than the WT's "love".

Earl Wednesday, May 16, 2007
@ 11:13 AM
maleuenda and all
Good idea Mal. I wrote to Bill O a while back as I know he is fighting for changes in the ped laws and was vocal during the Catholic scandals. The more we contact these people the better chance we have, though I did not hear back from him I will try again. Another guy is Sean Hannity, he is a moral man and takes on all kinds of stories. They both have webb-sites. We have strength in numbers so please people contact these guys and anyone else who can look into the wrongs out there.Someone once said that the only thing needed for evil to exist is for good people to do nothing.This makes me think of people in the org who turn their heads away when they know abuse is happening. I know there are many sincere witnesses that don't know what is going on but the ones I talk to bury their heads in the sand and refuse to believe what is happening .I don't think we are held accountable for what we don't know but if we see evil and don't help the poor victim we are not loving one another. To some it is more important to belong than to deal with the hard truth. I'm sure Bill Bowen could have gone along and still be an elder in good standing but for his conscience. I commend him and all that work to stop abuse. I am glad to see new people reporting in here, you all keep up the good work. Love and blessings to all:)

M.A.N. Wednesday, May 16, 2007
@ 10:47 AM
Re: Maluenda's post
I think Maluenda's idea is a good one. I have rarely watched his show, though, so I don't know how he is like. Another idea might be to do the same with Oprah or the Dr. Phil show. I believe that BrendaLee, who wrote a book "Out of the Cocoon" said in her newsletter that the Oprah show was considering having her on the show. Does anyone know of any other TV show to try? Thanks. My best to all.

Maluenda Wednesday, May 16, 2007
@ 9:26 AM
To all
I would like to encourage everyone on this site to call Bill O'Reilly once a day and request that he do a show on the JW ped problem. The number is 1-888-369-4762 press 5. You will be asked to leave your name and telephone number and the idea for your show. I suggest that you first leave the the fact that the case was settled in Cal. and a gag order placed because the JWs are so afraid that their stellar rep will be tarnished they sacrifice the childrens safety. Then every day after that I would call and request that the show be done and state one fact about the JW cult. Social isolation, no therapists, two witness rule, you get my drift. If we all pull together and do this then maybe he'll take notice and at the very least they'll check into the issue. If they check into it they'll be surprised at what they learn and do a show. Let's focus our efforts. Blessings

Maria Wednesday, May 16, 2007
@ 12:37 AM
Thank you
for all you do to protect innocent children with no voice of their own...God bless you both! Much love

Janet Bowen Tuesday, May 15, 2007
@ 11:16 PM
To MT
MT wrote, To your mother: shame on you, stand up for your son, be proud of him, he really deserve it. I have only a little clue of, what he is going through. Love him, but also love yourself. And how can you do that now? Many thougths to you Bill and your wife Janet. I hope you can follow my thougths. God bless you for your good work, mt. ---------------------------------------------------------- Thank you so much, mt for your comments and words of encouragement. Bill wrote an article awhile back called 'A Family Lost, A Family Gained'. It is truly rewarding to see that we are surrounded with people that are genuine and love you even for the simplest acts of kindness. What a refreshing thing to come here to our Guestbook and read words to build each other up, and not like other ex-jw forums that love to get into heated discussions and bash each other for petty things. Thanks to all here, for banding together like true family and friends should!

Jamie J` Tuesday, May 15, 2007
@ 9:09 PM
MT
Wow! Your words brought tears to my eyes. That was absolutely beautiful.

Natasha Tuesday, May 15, 2007
@ 4:11 PM
This is so necessary...
First of all, thank you for providing an outlet for those still living with hurt because of this organization's irresponsibility. Next, I want so much to be involved with your cause as I work from home and have some flexibility. Finally, this site and organization is definitely necessary for the safety of any child still within the system under their parents who are still afraid to come forward. I have a little brother (9yrs) and sister (13yrs) still going with my mom and stepdad, who, by the way, have proof of wrongdoing with other minors that I grew up with by elders that are still leading the same congregations. What can we do to get through?

Maluenda Tuesday, May 15, 2007
@ 4:10 PM
To MT
You are such a loving person. There is no language barrier. When you write your love shines through and everyone knows exactly what you are saying! We are all so happy you are a part of our extended family! Blessings to you!

Maluenda Tuesday, May 15, 2007
@ 4:07 PM
To JOY JOY........
I went their and posted. Thanks for sharing that with us and helping to get the word out. I hope everyone will take the time to do what you did and put it on their local news blog, discussion forum etc. Blessings!

mt Tuesday, May 15, 2007
@ 3:48 PM
To Bill
Hi Bill Just now I read that the mother I recieved a mail about, was Your mother. I am so truly sorry for you. I find it so difficult to find words. My father lost his mother when he was 9 years old, he is now almost 84. She died of cancer. And he has talked about her as long as I remember, and I am 45 now. And I thinking, what a shame, what a shame, that your mum does'nt want to know you anymore and my father miss his mother so deeply. What if my father could explain your mother the meaning of having a mother in life? Oh, this differents lanquage's, it's so difficult to explain. I hope you, dispite your message from you mother, are doing just fine, and I feel deeply with you. I so much hope, that your mother realise, what a mistake she is doing. I don't know, what my son's should do, not to get forgiveness. God can see all the great work you are doing, and he is blessing you, because you really get somewhere, and you really help victims. And he will continue blessing you. Bill keep up the good works, we are so many supporting you. Also here in litle Denmark. To your mother: shame on you, stand up for your son, be proud of him, he really deserve it. I have only a litle clue of, what he is going through. Love him, but also love yourself. And how can you do that now? Many thougths to you Bill and your wife Janet. I hope you can follow my thougths. God bless you for your good work, mt. ___________________________________________________________ Thank you, your thoughts come through loud and clear!

joy!joy!joy!joy! Tuesday, May 15, 2007
@ 3:17 PM
Local person mentions local cong had sex abusers
In my eagerness to spread the news of the recent court settlements by JWs with their victims, I started a thread at a local news forum, in which someone came forward that a local congregation had covered up sex abuse of someone they knew. I urged the respondent to contact you and report this. Here is the thread address: http://forums.starnewsonline.com/eve/forums? a=tpc&s=5331088265&f=1661088265&m=7501063426&r=1371037426#1 3 71037426

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