Guestbook January 2008

Bradley A. M Tuesday, January 1, 2008
@ 10:22 AM
Response to Silent Lambs & others
Dear Silent Lambs & Others, My sincere sorrow goes out to those who are being sexually abused and have been sexually abused, my personal feelings on that crime, is that its' the most reprehensible one their is and unlike Ray Franz, I have children, two daughters. If anyone were to try that on them, we wouldn't need to wait for judicial committees or our flawed judicial system to act, because its' at least a good possibility I would beat them to the punch, well I'm sure you get the picture. My apologies to anyone whom I offended on this site due to the sensitive nature of this issue, Respectfully with Christian Love, Brad.

Alex Wednesday, January 2, 2008
@ 8:21 AM
Conrtol Of A Large Group Of People
Why do we have folks like the person below posting all over the internet the following message? Posted by onlinereader on 01/02/08 at 6:47AM If you would like more REAL and accurate info about Jehovah's Witnesses on the web be sure to check out the official web site at www.Watchtower.org So we are only to trust according to onlinereader the Watchtower's sources for information about the Jehovah's Witness religion. Yet the Watchtower has taken upon itself to speak for other religions. An example is the red hard covered book "Mankind's search for God". This book speaks for Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Shinto, Judaism, Islam, and every protestant and Catholic faith. I think that the Watchtower is just a high control group that does want anyone to see anything critical about it.

Sindy B. Wednesday, January 2, 2008
@ 1:17 PM
born, bred and beaten into the
I am now 37. I was born into this idea of religion. I escaped with my life, but not with my sanity. I have told my story and will shout it from the rooftops if it will help just one child. If it is desired for me to tell it here, please direct me to the forum to do that. Thank you, Sindy------------Silentlambs Reply - If you would like to join the thousands of victims whom have told their story here at Silentlambs on our 'Abused Lambs' page, you can write to info@silentlambs.org as we would be happy to post your story as well. It is a brave thing to do in taking that step and having the courage to come forward and speak out about abuse. Thanks for your post.

Wednesday, January 2, 2008
@ 3:51 PM
To M.A.N. and others
M.A.N., I know what you are going through with needing medical attention and having to pay out of your own pocket. I am in the same situation, as are many, many others. I called Health and Welfare and asked if there was some kind of insurance I can get and that I get a disability check once a month. I was told yes, that I could apply for Medicaid and get help with medical bills through it. I would like to know, though, what other options there might be for insurance. I can't go to a dentist, either. So many people are in the same situation. It is so frustrating for all of us. Exasperating! Anyway, M.A.N., it sounds as if you really need some medical assistance, and I sure hope you get it. I don't know how you would feel about being on Medicaid or Medicare, but maybe you could call H & W and check out some options. I wish you and others with health problems the best!!! Take good care all of you!!!

Earl Wednesday, January 2, 2008
@ 7:57 PM
Bradley AM and others
Bradley , you sound like a loving , honorable Christian man. I guess there is nothing like having your own children to have that protective instinct, though not completely necessary as to abhor the evil we see posted here. I would think any loving soul would want to help alleviate such suffering. Unfortunately some have lost that instinct in certain religions and trust the unworthy. When you tell a group of people that their elders are hand picked by God many members believe that they could never harm their children, but we know that is not true. I thank God I was never challenged with the terrible abuse with my kids that others have gone through as I too would handle the situation. But my heart goes out to all people who suffer and I will do all in my power to educate, prevent and expose as it is the least I must do. In Jesus parable of the sheep even one lost soul was important. Whether it be one or a thousand it doesn't matter to me. It's almost like many are calloused today and don't take notice unless there is a huge number concerned. I think eventually we will have a count when the courts intervene and other victims feel safe to come forward, but I think we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg at this time even though it is way too many being abused and covered over. Imagine how much safer a congregation would be if even one person was looking out that not even one child would be abused on their watch. If this persons job was to listen to all concerns and complaints and no one feared coming forward. I suspect the pedophiles would be on alert especially if people knew who they were. This is what a good congregation would do if it wanted to keep the congregation clean. I would hope your loving concern will inspire your friend to join and become part of the solution. Blessings

Alex Wednesday, January 2, 2008
@ 8:47 PM
First century christian business
Jonathan Friday, December 28, 2007 @ 7:49 PM Big Business in Watchtower Bible The Watchtower organization is a business. The Jehovah's Witnesses are required to turn in their activity in their field ministry. Some items that they need to report each month are as follows: Number of Hours of Field Service, Number of books, Number of Booklets & Brochures, Number of Return Visits, Number of Bible studies, and Number of Individual Magazines. This reminds me of my secular work. ____________________________________________________________ I thought that Jehovah's Witness religion only did what first century Christians did? Did Jesus go door to door with his field service reports and a pencil?

Silentlambs Moderator Wednesday, January 2, 2008
@ 9:41 PM
Topics For Discussion
Just a reminder for all posting. Silentlambs is and has remained a non-biased organization when it comes to topics regarding religious doctrines and belief. We have for years kept this website strictly for those to come here and express ones intolerance for the Watchtower leaders and their not protecting children within the Jehovah's Witness organization. Although we want all to be free to express their opinion here and not be judged for their thoughts, we would like for all to continue to remain on target for discussion and limit our discussion to abuse within the JW religion. We want all those both in and out of the Jehovah's Witnesses to continue to come here and feel comfortable to express their feelings, thoughts and personal stories. We appreciate all who come here on a regular basis, and encourage you to continue to do so. But, lets continue to encourage all to keep on the subject of abuse and to stand up for what is right - and NOT be a Silent Lamb!

Meloi Thursday, January 3, 2008
@ 6:35 AM
Unreal
Sexual abuse in any society, organisation, village etc etc is abhorrent. To Jehovah's Witnesses too. I was physically abused by my JW husband. The first time I was ever hit by him I had him arrested and he never came back. Why? Because what he done was ILLEGAL and he broke the law. My point is, in most countries sexual abuse is illegal and a matter for the Police! Elders can only deal with the scriptural offenses and most abusers are liars, so the Elders can only go on what they are told. God does not approve of sexual violation of anyone! If the Elders are lied to and the perpetrator says he is repentant, what can they do? Even jailed rapists and pedophiles have parole. I think the key is to inform JWs that the Elders are not the Police and issues such as these mentioned are POLICE MATTERS. The Elders in my congregation didn't reprimand me for contacting the Police when my ex broke my face and the law. He was sentenced and his charges were not covered over, even though he lied to them. I believe that Jehovah's Witnesses will be part of the 'cleanse' mentioned before, as regards the sexual abuse and other things and God will be there showing the way, if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about. If someone violates your rights GO TO THE POLICE! I find it unreal that some victims don't know to do this. Instead they entrust their pain to people that have no legal powers to do anything, Elders. If someone stole your car, would you go to the Elders to have it returned? As for Silentlambs being unbiased as to religious beliefs and doctrine? Unbiased is not a word I'd use to describe the very targeted 'doctrine' of this website. Peace everyone. Please remember that God will not be mocked- by anyone! Including Jehovahs Witnesses.

man711 Thursday, January 3, 2008
@ 8:05 AM

Silentlambs Moderator thank you. It has been getting off target.

Thursday, January 3, 2008
@ 12:48 PM
To Meloi
I am so sorry for your husband's abuse of you! It sounds as if he really hurt you, too! Good for you for calling the police and letting them handle it. It looks as if many JWs don't call the police, who are the proper authorities in abuse cases, out of fear of losing their relationships with their JW families and friends. With this very real threat hanging absurdly over their heads, they keep mum about abuse. No one should ever feel they have to keep silent about pedophiles molesting their children! The same goes for spousal abuse. The WTB&TS's way of handling pedophilia is beyond cold. It is literally cruel and unusual punishment of the innocent! It is bizarre!! No, it's insane is what it is!!! How can any so-called sensible, reasonable adult possibly put the blame of child molestation ON the child?! What on earth does a young child know about sex, anyway, that would make him/her responsible for "seducing" an adult?! HA!!! What a joke! Besides, the adult is the power figure, the one who is supposed to be responsible about what they do with children. Treating children like dirt when child abuse is reported is sick, sick, sick! And mean, mean, mean! It is absolutely beyond belief how pedophilia is handled in the JW "religion"! Disgusting!!!

M.A.N. Friday, January 4, 2008
@ 2:14 PM
Thank you
I wanted to thank the person who posted concerning health payments. I'll look into it. I haven't posted for awhile due to health but I try to read some of the guestbook. My best wishes to all. M.A.N.

Dr. J. Lewis Saturday, January 5, 2008
@ 8:56 AM
My thoughts
The Gospel accounts of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John do not contain any information on Jesus Christ, or his apostles, reporting any time for their "field ministry". The first century Christian congregations did not practice this as well. The Bible does not advocate this practice at all. It was never initiated by Jesus Christ. True followers of Jesus Christ would abstain from this practice. Following Jesus Christ is not popular. The Jehovah's Witnesses (Watchtower Bible and Tract Society) follows a business approach when it comes to their "field ministry".

SJG Saturday, January 5, 2008
@ 5:18 PM
HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008!
I'm hoping & praying that all of the victims of the JWs are healing and will continue to heal. This is going to be a great year! God really does heal those who ask. He can give us clarity of mind about these things. SO HERE'S A TOAST TO HEALING & MOVING FORWARD IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION!

stickers Saturday, January 5, 2008
@ 9:03 PM

Do you still have stickers saying No Pedophiles at my door. I looked in the sl store and don't see them now. --------------------Silentlambs Reply: Please contact Silentlambs directly at info@silentlambs.org - There are stickers available that say 'No Child Molesters at my Door!' and they will direct you to the right place to obtain them.

Cara S. Saturday, January 5, 2008
@ 9:34 PM
Another Poem...Memories Wishing To Forget!
ABUSE SURVIVORS...OUR HOLIDAY MEMORIES... WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE TO WANT TO FLY AWAY FROM MEMORIES OF PAST LONG AGO?................. I’LL TELL YOU… IT FEELS LIKE TRYING TO BREATHE UNDER WATER OR BEING FROZEN BY ONCOMING HEADLIGHTS LIKE AN INNOCENT DOE........................... ABUSED CHILDREN ALL GROWN UP ARE LEFT FEELING THIS WAY............. SOME OF US FOR A SPLIT SECOND, OTHERS LIKE MYSELF ARE LEFT FEELING LIKE THIS EVERY SINGLE DAY................. EXPECTED TO CONTINUE ON WITHOUT QUESTION AS IF OUR LIVES AS CHILDREN WERE COMPARIBLE TO YOURS.................... AS IF OUR HORRIFIC MEMORIES ARE SUPPOSEDLY EASIER TO FORGET THAN YOUR NORMAL MEMORIES OF UNCONDITIONAL LOVE THAT ALL ILLS MOMMY’S KISS CURES........................ SORRY BUT IT DOESN’T WORK THAT WAY AT ALL................... WE END UP UNLIKE YOURSELF WAITING EXPECTANTLY FOR THE RUG ONCE AGAIN BEING RIPPED FROM UNDERNEATH US CAUSING OUR INEVITABLE FALL........................ WE TRY WITH EVERY BREATH INSIDE OUR FRAGILE TORN AND BROKEN SOUL...................... TO GAIN STRENGTH ENOUGH TO IGNORE THE INVASIVE CHILDHOOD SCARS THAT LEAVES US WITH AN INNER BLACK HOLE............ WE TRY TO PRETEND THESE THINGS NEVER HAPPENED TO US LIKE YOU WOULDN’T BELIEVE............. WE SMILE, WORK, MAKE YOU LAUGH, DRAINING OUR STRENGTH TRYING NOT TO FLINCH WITH EVERY NORMAL TOUCH, ALL THE WHILE INSIDE WE CONSTANTLY GRIEVE.................... OUR ENERGY IS DRAINED TRYING TO EASE OUR PAIN.............. ALL THE WHILE IT’S YOUR EXPECTATIONS OF US CAUSING IT TO DRAIN................ WHEN WE DO FALL AND CAN’T GET BACK UP.................. DEPRESSION OVERWHELMS US AND WE BEG FOR YOUR HELP TO FIND THE HALF FULL GLASS IN OUR CUP.............. THEN YOU SAY WHY DIDN’T YOU SAY SOMETHING?............. WHEN WE DID YOU RAN AND HID LIKE OUR ABUSERS LEAVING US TO FEEL YOU TOO WERE ALSO UNFORGIVING................... FOR WHATEVER REASON ABUSED CHILDREN FEEL TO BLAME EVEN AS INNOCENT AS WE WERE OF THE CRIMES COMMITTED AGAINST OUR FRAGILE BODIES AND MIND................... THEY FAKED LOVE FOR ABUSE TO HIDE THEIR CRIMES AND JUST LIKE YOU PRETENDED THAT WHAT THEY WERE DOING TO US WAS SOMEHOW KIND.............. IF IT’S TOO MUCH FOR YOU TO BEAR SEEING US THIS WAY......... WHAT GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO EXPECT US TO LOOK FORWARD TO ANOTHER DAY?.............. WHAT ARE WE TO LOOK FORWARD TO I ASK?.............. MEMORIES TOO PAINFUL FOR YOU TO HEAR ABOUT LEAVING US ALONE TO FACE ALONG WITH THE BURDEN OF OUR DAILY TASK!............... IT MUST BE NICE TO BE SO PERFECT!................ I WOULDN’T KNOW YET SOMEHOW YOU EXPECT ME TO FORGET!.......... I’LL ASK YOU ONE LAST TIME! THINK FOR A MOMENT PLEASE AND FOR ONCE THROW YOUR JUDGEMENT ASIDE AND TAKE SOME TIME…........... CAN YOU FORGET YOUR JOYFULL CHILDHOOD MEMORIES OF CHRISTMAS EVE?................ HOW CAN YOU EXPECT ME TO FORGET MY CHILDHOOD MEMORIES THAT CAUSE NIGHTMARES TO THIS DAY THAT STILL MAKE IT HARD FOR ME TO BREATHE?................. YET THERE YOU SIT STARING AT ME IN DISBELIEF WONDERING WHY I CAN’T MOVE ON............... WHY SHOULD MY CHILDHOOD MEMORIES SOMEHOW BE EASIER TO FORGET THAN YOURS, JUST LIKE YOURS THOSE MEMORIES ARE NEVER REALLY GONE!................... FACE IT FOR ONCE!.... THERE WILL NEVER BE JUSTIFICATION FOR ABUSE VICTIMS LIKE US!.................. SO HOW DARE YOU EXPECT US TO FORGIVE AND FORGET!........... WHAT YOU YOURSELVES CAN’T EVEN HANDLE IN YOUR DARKEST NIGHTMARES OF FEARS WITHOUT WAKING, EYES WIDE OPEN, SHAKING AFTER BREAKING A SWEAT!.............. AT LEAST YOU HAVE THE PRIVELEDGE OF WAKING TO THE FACT IT WAS JUST A BAD DREAM…..... YOU GET TO SIGH THE BREATH OF RELIEF WE CAN ONLY FANTASIZE ABOUT WHEN YOU AWAKE UNLIKE US LEFT FOREVER STILL FEELING UNCLEAN!........... By Cara S. Abuse Survivor from the cult of Jehovah’s Witnesses

hopeing for the best Sunday, January 6, 2008
@ 7:04 AM

Does anyone know about a class action suit against the Watchtower regarding informed consent???!!!! As all JWs are uninformed about the ambiguous, interpretation of scripture per each elder body and the inconsistency in things that sanctioned Bill Bowen and many others.

Dr. J. Lewis Sunday, January 6, 2008
@ 9:23 AM
An answer for Alex
The simple answer to your question is no. Jesus Christ and his apostles were more interested in people, not numbers. The accounting of numbers is a practice found in the modern day churches.

Damien Monday, January 7, 2008
@ 6:33 AM
Reporting
I agree reporting in the JW is monthly and they use this report 'to gauge your spirituality' as one elder stated to my wife. As most witnesses find this burdensome they fall into a state of depression if they could not report at any given month. They are then considered 'inactive' so they resort to fudging their report.Is this healthy Christianity? I don't think so!! What are your views? --------------------------Silentlambs Reply - Once again this topic is off of theme of Silentlambs objective which is to expose the wrongdoing within the leadership of the Jehovah's Witness religion as it pertains to Child Abuse. However - a thinking person might phrase his or her question this way.......If a a child comes forward and tells of their first hand knowledge of a publisher in their congregation to be a child molester, however their are not 'two eye witnesses' to the case and there is no disciplinary action to the accused from the body of elders - then isn't this person is still required to go door to door and conduct bible studies with individuals within the community? Think about that, and see how you might start your discussion here on the Silentlambs Guestbook about many matters from within the JW organization to child abuse.

Simon Wednesday, January 9, 2008
@ 3:01 PM
Watchtower sex practices
The response that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society gave to the Nightly news shows how little regard they have about child sex abuse. The Watchtower's response is one that many companies would give if they were found guilty of criminal activity. Companies such as Watchtower tell people we are not responsible for our actions. Children are parents responsibility not ours. In addition, the letter gave no indication that they would change their corporate structure on this matter. Some wise companies would try to figure out what went wrong and rectify the matter. Living in this world is very dangerous. We have to keep these types of people off our streets.

Simon Friday, January 11, 2008
@ 7:00 PM
The Bible and Business do not mix
When a religion has business overtones, it should not surprise anyone that there are deep seeded problems in the Watchtower company. Criminal activity is not uncommon in these instances. In addition, other criminal activity will resurface as well. We just have to give it some time. It will show up.

Michael Saturday, January 12, 2008
@ 9:35 AM
Thoughts
The "gauge of spirituality" is not based on numbers; it is based on the relationship between Jehovah God and you. Many of the abusers on this web site more than likely had excellent field service time. However, the Bible never entered their hearts. Therefore, this "gauge of spirituality" is false. When the "Governing Body" of the Jehovah's Witnesses can start to meditate on the Gospel accounts, they will realize that Jesus never instituted a numbers based spirituality. Numbers come from the corporate world; not the Bible world.

hopeful Sunday, January 13, 2008
@ 12:17 AM
MORAL MANIFESTO!
We individuals 30.000. 60,000, or more worldwide mislead individuals by the Watchtower, duped Into volunteering without informed consent, for an organization THAT will not 100% uphold truth, and ethics, that within autonomous operations, protect and hide the identity of known criminals, whether sex offenders or otherwise from unsuspecting families exposing them to real and present danger. We cannot, do not endorse any organization that shows blatant disregard for the welfare of its members, and will eliminate, or sanction ANY that DISSENT AND DISAGREE WITH UNETHICAL POLICIES OF THE WATCHTOWER, and reasonably make a stand in good conscience,to uphold the Truth, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE that could put a face on this issue, THAT MAY HELP THE GOOD PART OF WATCHTOWER TO SEE THE NEED FOR CHANGE! HOPEFUL

Accountability Monday, January 14, 2008
@ 10:08 AM

Pedophiles are pedophiles. A while back a JW sister said to some other JW sisters, "You know the Brothers would never do anything to hurt us". If "the Brothers" were true brothers that would be true, but they are first and foremost PEDOPHILES when they rape babies and young boys or girls. In the Watchtower Society system of things each local body of elders is not kicking out its peers when those peers admit to pedophilia providing the pedophilia they confess to occurred two to three years earlier. This causes the pedophiles to stack up, become more and more numerous. Instead of admitting to the problem and making some simple adjustments, the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, whose real kingpin is Theodore Jaracz, punish the victims and those who openly speak up about the crisis. Why the ---- doesn't the U.S. government and the governments of other lands step in? I say let's rub the problem under their noses so they can't say they aren't aware of it. They have so far tried to ignore the problem about as much as the JW Governing Body. Let's start emailing them and let it be known they too are accountable.

CHR Monday, January 14, 2008
@ 3:47 PM
OH
I am just learning all of this and am shocked!

Earl Tuesday, January 15, 2008
@ 4:28 AM
OH and others
I too was shocked as many are when they find out the real truth of the matter. One could say that God used the computer to get the message out by caring and loving souls. If it weren't for the PC, the Org. could have gone on its secret path of abuse. I am curious how you and others heard of this issue. Every JW I know refuses to believe such horror stories even after coming to Silent Lambs. I tell everyone interested in the abuse issue to google the record of JW's if one wants an education of all the untruths they have taught. Their secrets are out and I do my best to warn others and put out brochures warning of the pedophile issue. I take heart in knowing that if there is a pedophile in my town and comes to your door that all will be aware to not allow a stranger in their home without first knowing who it is they are dealing with. I guarantee many people are going to outright ask if the person is a pedophile and check them out and get there names to see if they are on a pedophile list somewhere. The fact that even the members of the church are not allowed to know there is a pedophile amongst them is criminal, but at least the public will have a heads up. I encourage all to spread the word and copy off some brochures that Silent Lambs has available and post them in your area markets, banks , post office, etc. The word is getting out folks and I believe we are making a difference. If we can spare one person from the terrible abuse it is surely a worthy effort. Keep up the good works SilentLambs, and all who have a loving heart for justice for all of Gods children. Blessings to all in this new year. All the Silent lambs thank you. :)

Accountability Thursday, January 17, 2008
@ 3:11 PM

I, on the other hand, believe that many to most do believe it. It's just that they can't admit that they do or too are disfellowshipped. Everybody knows EVERYBODY must go out in field service (preaching at door). ------------------------Silentlambs Reply: Including Child Molesters.

PCW Friday, January 18, 2008
@ 9:59 AM

My next door neighbor and family are JWs and attend every single meeting. I often wonder if they even know what is happening with children who have been molested. I recall being at meeting after meeting and it was constantly reinforced to us that we were living in the last days and Satan will lead people and believers against the only true organization of Jehovah with lies. I think all faithful believers keep that in mind as one of Satan's attempt to mislead as many as possible and won't allow themselves to go listen to any negative here say because of their mindset of being disloyal by indulging in any conversation of such. It is so sad that they can preach what they want to, but refuse to listen because their way is the only way. I know this for a fact because I was once one and I find myself not doing certain things because some of the teachings are hard to shake, as in voting. Although I am no longer a JW, I have to question why I haven't registered to vote.

Earl Friday, January 18, 2008
@ 11:05 PM
Cara PCW and all
Cara, I liked your second poem as well as the first one which I shared with my JW sister who has disowned me for trying to tell her the truth of the child abusers. I sent her your first poem and said "This is why I come to Silent Lambs to do what I can to stop the abuse." she never replied. To PCW - You said something like it was hard to break away from the Org. teaching and thinking. You are so right as I was raised with the JW teachings and I carried on as that was all I knew until a couple of years ago when I started thinking for myself and then coming to Silent Lambs was the last straw as I knew of other major cover ups in the org. One has to understand the power of brain washing to fully appreciate how strong the indoctrination is and how very difficult to break the spell. In many cases nothing short of a spiritual experience is required to find that wonderful freedom that one finds if he is able to move on. I voted for the first time in my life last year and I finally felt like I was not a freak any more with the fatalistic attitude of the jw's. But break away we must if we are to help the silent lambs who have no voice. I finally understood I was either part of the problem, by my pacifistic thinking the jw's have as in- let God handle the evil while we wait on the side line and watch the suffering go on, or be part of the solution and do what I could to educate the jw's and others and print out brochures and post them all over town. If I can reach one parent and give them a heads up on the evil amongst them I might spare some child from the hands of some pedophile. It doesn't take much effort or time on my part and it sure is worth the effort. The org. blames the parents for allowing their kids to be out of their sight at the same time telling the congregation that their leaders are above reproach so the members trust these elders. They don't care that the parents are not even told that a child abuser sits among them, so the parents are at a big disadvantage. I have yet to talk with a jw who was aware of the problems with child abuse in their org. If and when they come to my door they do not walk away without knowing the rest of the story, they are no longer blameless after I educate them. It used to be I would get annoyed when they would pull in my driveway. Now they get annoyed when they run into me as I will kindly share my brochure with them. After all these years of listening to their theology it feels good to give some back. One person educated at a time came make a real difference for others. Blessings to all:)

JB Friday, January 18, 2008
@ 11:48 PM
PCW
Most JW's have never heard of or don't believe in the child molestation issues, because they are victims of a mind controlling cult. You haven't registered to vote, because you still haven't been able to shake the mind control yet. Don't feel bad. It takes years to recover from something like that. I've been out for 20 years and am still sorting the rights and wrongs of life.

Accountability Saturday, January 19, 2008
@ 4:51 PM
To PCW
Hi, PCW. Why not send a letter to them telling what's going on.

PCW Sunday, January 20, 2008
@ 8:34 AM
JB,Accountability, Earl
Thank you for your encouragement and understanding. As far as sending a letter, I doubt seriously if they would even read it once they realize that it goes against what they are taught to believe. In the beginning of my teachings with them, many years ago, I remember once being out with them socially and a person gave me some religious materials to read and the person studying with me told me to tear it up and not read it because it was coming from the evil slave class who were once in the truth but fell away after the big to do prediction did not happen in 1975, when I first became introduced to their teachings. Trust me, they would not read it because they are brainwashed, bigtime. Sometimes old habits and thoughts are hard to break but I am working on it. The best thing about it is that I continue to visit Silentlambs and the comments here really help alot. Thank you again, PCW

Frank Sunday, January 20, 2008
@ 3:06 PM
Watchtower Accountability?
There is no accountability amongst the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. To even think that they would change their policies because "apostates" want them to, would be foolish. Our goal should not force the Watchtower to do anything. The goal should be to educate people about their evil practices to the governments and especially to the United States Supreme Court. If we can get the Supreme Court to deny them a court appearance, we will have won. The Jehovah's Witnesses thrive on their court victories. We have to show these court justices the activities of this religious group as a whole.

M.A.N. Monday, January 21, 2008
@ 1:47 PM
General comments
First, I would like to say I'm happy to see new people here although I deeply regret that any visits are necessary in the first place. In other words, I'm sorry that abuse takes place anywhere in the world, but particularly in a religion that virtually stands on the mountain top and broadcasts to the world that they are the only truth and if you disagree, you will die and/or lose your family and friends. For those who are new here, I used to post quite regularly. I had to stop due to health and other reasons. My health is now improving with treatment. I also wanted to say that my divorce is now final and I'm free of this sick and twisted cult. Again, for those who are new, my daughter was molested for several years before she was even a teenager. The JW who did it was known to the WT as a pedophile, yet we were not warned, even though the elders knew he was doing work on my home. When I criticized the WT, my wife left me and took my daughter. I know she believes that she did the right thing in Jehovah's eyes, but she is as brain- washed as all of the JW's are. I have a degree in Psychology and there is no way to defend the beliefs of the WT, either religiously, psychologically, or scientifically. I have made the point several times that many still believe that God is using the WT as his only channel here on earth. I firmly believe that God cannot be using the WT as his chosen religion because they violate the very principles in the Bible that they claim prove that they have the truth. This brings up the question as to how to best help the victims. I don't know how much success anyone will have suing the WT since they have millions of dollars to spend on lawyers. Only a few of us have that kind of money. But we outnumber them 1,000 to one. That means that out of every 1,000 people on the earth, one is a JW and the other 999 are not. I also know, although I can't find the source at the moment, that there are more people alive today who studied with the JW's, were baptized and quit, were baptized and were disfellowshipped, or just faded away. This means that when you consider how many people have had more than just a casual visit to their door on Saturday morning, the majority of people who were/are JW's have rejected the WT. That alone says a lot to the world. My suggestion on how to defeat the WT still stands. One of the best ways to bring them down is using lawyers who have offered their services for free, suing the WT on your own, and most of all, just plain telling your neighbors and friends about the cover- ups. The public is already fed up with clergy molesting children as it is, but when they find out that the JW's, who act like they are God's gift to the world, are doing much of the molesting, the public will react. SL had/has brochures that can be left with people. You can go door to door and warn your area. You can tell your family. The WT is incapable of fighting the odds of 1,000 to one. I'll post more later. My best to all. M.A.N.

M.A.N. Monday, January 21, 2008
@ 2:14 PM
Additional information
This is just to add to my previous post. For those who have known me for several years, you have known that my wife left me in 2001 and took my daughter. I gave her every chance to consider my reasons for not being able to support a baby-raping cult (my child was 9 years old when the molestation began). She refused marriage counseling, my explanations as to why she defended the WT (based on my knowledge of Psychology), and all other attempts to help her. Last week, I divorced her and it is now final. I cannot respect a person who refuses to listen to both sides before making a decision. If memory serves, the first few chapters of the old "Truth" book urges all people to consider the proofs provided by their current religion and those of the WT. But the WT only wants it to work one way. You are allowed to study the "faults" of the Catholic Church, but if you bring up the faults of the WT, then you are suspected of being an ex-JW trying to trip them up and waste their time, or else if you are new to the WT's beliefs, you will soon be "dropped" as a study since you must be a "goat" in WT language. This is the classic propaganda tactics used everywhere in the world. As Henry Ford said about the "Model T" (I think that's right, I wasn't born yet), when asked about color, "YOU CAN HAVE YOUR CAR ANY COLOR YOU WANT AS LONG AS IT'S BLACK." The WT is doing the same thing. You can believe anything you want to about God and read any books on religion as long as you believe the WT is the truth and you never read any anti-WT material. From a logical, philosophical, scientific (and many others) standpoint, what the WT is asking of the public, no DEMANDING of the public AND ESPECIALLY CURRENT JW'S, is that they all blindly swallow whatever the WT says without any research. As one WT writer once put it, "All your thinking has been done for you. Just do what you're told." I'm sorry, but I refuse to allow men whose IQ's are lower than mine (and others here also, I'm not the only intelligent person in the world) to dictate what I read and how I think. NOW TO THE MAIN POINT----- Many victims are afraid to tell the police what happened because they have been directly threatened or have heard that others who did so were disfellowshipped. I can only urge you to report any abuse and to seek professional help. You will NOT receive professional help from the WT because they don't know what they are doing. If they did, most of the abuse wouldn't have occurred in the first place. I also realize that many don't want to face the agony of losing your family if they stay in the WT and shun you. I suffered this cruelty and survived. It wasn't easy, but it was necessary. Reporting abuse to the police may save dozens, if not hundreds, of other children from being abused in the future. I won't judge what anyone does. I can only tell you the issues. I hope this information helps those who come to this site for comfort and solace. Again, as has been noted before, is isn't important to argue doctrine while posting. We all know that the WT has made utter fools of themselves because of their failed prophecies, changing the "inspired rules", etc. The issue here is that those who fear that they are displeasing Jehovah by not obeying his organization might want to consider the fact that the WT's conduct has proven that they are NOT God's organization. If a victim can get past that fear, then he/she can begin the process of recovery. My best to all. M.A.N.

Cheri Romero Tuesday, January 22, 2008
@ 1:29 PM
I agree
I have been involved with Silentlambs since 2002 and I frequently check in but do not usually post anything but I have to agree with Frank. They will NOT listen to anything that disfellowshipped, apostate, lower than sub-human (according to them)people have to say. We DO need to take it to the higher courts for relief.

Cheri Romero Tuesday, January 22, 2008
@ 1:54 PM

Mom, how come you let me cry?.... I am scared and all alone.... That man you married, he told a lie,... Is this what you condone?... Mom, you should have helped me.... You should have seen the danger signs.... Mom, this crime just cannot be,... Someone needs to pay the price.... Mom, damn you, you took his side,... and the elders, they took it too.... Mom, I know God will not abide... By the horrible things they do.... Mom, you died with a heavy heart,... and he went on to hurt others.... Mom, I will heal then I will start,... to support my hurting brothers.... Cheri R August 2003

Cheri Romero Tuesday, January 22, 2008
@ 1:59 PM
To MAN
Well hello stranger. I haven;t seen you on here in a long time. How are you? Do you still have the same email addy? If so, let me know cause I have sent you things but never heard anything back. I miss seeing your great comments on here MAN. Please contact me ok

M.A.N. Wednesday, January 23, 2008
@ 3:57 PM
To Cheri
Hi, how are you? Yes, I got your email but accidentally moved it to another one of my pc's and it got deleted. Send something to the email addy you have and I'll answer. Hope all is well with you. My best to all. M.A.N.

cara s. Thursday, January 24, 2008
@ 7:21 PM
innocence stolen
Thank you for your kind comments about my thoughts and poetry. Here is another one I wrote recently................... SOMETIMES I SIT AND CAN’T HELP BUT WONDER WHEN THE HORRIFIC MEMORIES OF ABUSE CLATTER IN MY HEAD LIKE THUNDER. THE INESCAPABLE PAIN FROM CHILDHOOD DRIFTS IN AND OUT OF MY LIFE EVEN THOUGH NOW I’M AN ADULT GROWING UP THE WAY I DID NOBODY CAN IMAGINE THE LOSS AND DEMONS INSIDE THAT RAGE FROM GROWING UP IN A CULT. WHAT WOULD IT HAVE BEEN LIKE TO HAVE A CHRISTMAS FOR EXAMPLE OR JUST A TASTE OF BIRTHDAY CAKE FOR MY OWN TO SAMPLE. IT’S THE LITTLE THINGS LIKE THIS THAT ARE CONSTANT REMINDERS TO VICTIMS LIKE ME THE LOSS OF NORMALCY CONSTANTLY LINGERS. HOW CAN I TEACH MY OWN SON TO DYE AN EASTER EGG WHEN I WOULD HAVE BEEN BEATEN FOR THE ACT AS A CHILD FOR MERCY I WOULD HAVE HAD TO BEG. I CAN NEVER GO TRICK OR TREAT AS AN ADULT I’VE ONLY EXPERIENCED DOORS SLAMMED IN MY FACE GOING DOOR TO DOOR AS A CHILD IN THAT CULT. EVERY YEAR AS A CHILD MY PARENTS WOULD PROUDLY SHUT OFF OUR FRONT PORCH LIGHT, AS I HEARD MY CLASSMATES GOING TRICK OR TREAT IN COSTUMES I COULD ONLY DREAM OF WEARING ON HALLOWEEN NIGHT. THEY PREACHED PEACE AND HARMONY THE SUPPOSED GOOD NEWS OF THE KINGDOM TO ME MY PARENTS CONSTANTLY SPOON-FED MEANWHILE BACK AT HOME I HAD TO FACE BEING ALL ALONE DEALING WITH WHAT MY BROTHER HAD DONE WHILE HE LAUGHED AS I BLED. THERE ARE NO DO OVERS IN LIFE FOR VICTIMS LIKE ME ONLY AN ABSENCE OF BELONGING PAIN AND CONSTANT TRAGEDY. WHERE WILL IT END OR RATHER NORMALCY AND ACCEPTANCE BEGIN BECAUSE OF THE ABUSE THEIR’S JUST NOT MUCH FOR ME TO WORK WITH LEFT UNBROKEN FROM WITHIN. MOVE ON LOOK TO THE FUTURE I’M ALWAYS TOLD REVERBERATING IN MY EARS ALONG WITH THOUGHTS AND MEMORIES I CANNOT CONTROL. WHY CAN’T THEY JUST SIMPLY SEE ALL THE PRAYING AND WISHING ME WELL WILL NOT SET ME FREE. SO MANY THINGS FROM ME HAVE BEEN STOLEN THAT CANNOT BE RETURNED UNLIKE CHILDHOOD INNOCENCE A HOUSE CAN BE REBUILT AFTER IT’S BURNED. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO SMILE WHILE LIVING WITH THE FACT MY PARENTS CHOSE PROTECTING THE CULT OVER THEIR DAUGHTER ALONG WITH IGNORING MY ABUSERS ACT. I SCREAM TO GOD ABOVE PLEASE HELP ME GIVE ME STRENGTH WILLPOWER TO SURVIVE AND BELIEVE, YET CUTTING DEEP INSIDE I KNOW ONLY UNTIL MY ABUSER’S HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND JUSTICE SERVED I’LL FOREVER BE LEFT ALONE TO GRIEVE. By Cara Stalzer Abuse Survivor from the cult of Jehovah’s Witnesses

Jay Thursday, January 24, 2008
@ 8:02 PM
Counterfeit religion
The word Counterfeit comes to mind when I think of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. To a normal individual, a Counterfeit bill looks like the real thing. When someone investigates the bill further, there are slight imperfections that make the Counterfeit bill valueless and fake. After reviewing this web site, I see the fakeness of the Jehovah's Witness religion. They appear as holy, but when you take the time to investigate the spots begin to appear. Do not take this religion at face value. What appears to be holy; is not.

Robin Monday, January 28, 2008
@ 1:30 PM
Cara-
Did your parents ever come to a realization of what your brother had done to you? Bless your heart! All the pain you had to go through. How old were you then? I too was a victim at the age of 6. I went through life of dealing with guilt, panic attacks, and heavy drinking. Why did I do this to myself??? It wasn't my fault.

Cara Wednesday, January 30, 2008
@ 8:19 PM
Robin Thank You
I was seven when it first started. I am grown now with a son that is grown now as well. Regarding my parents... My father was an elder and my mother was a "good elders wife" I ran to them and they just got mad at me and sent me to my room. Anyway, I later was shocked when I confronted my father about what my brother had done for 10 years to me. You see, I never thought my daddy knew. I confronted him in desperation to clear my name from having been labeled a liar and schizophrenic, they labeled me anything to keep people from hearing my cries. But having little faith in the cult let alone my own parents, I hid a tape recorder and recorded the whole conversation. That was in 1998. I was shocked and hurt beyond imagination when he not only defended my brother who was at that time an elder too but blamed me for having ruined his life and reputation! My jaw dropped when my father "on tape mind you" admitted to knowing what my brother had done to me all of those years! I handed the tape over to the elders in the congregation at that time where my father and my brother were both elders thinking, "Hey here is your proof! My own father confessed!" The elders did NOTHING! They said they couldn't use the evidence because I wasn't baptized or attending meetings, therefore I was not credible. And my parents once again disowned me, blamed me, etc. You get the picture.

JAD Wednesday, January 30, 2008
@ 11:11 PM
Hypocrisy
When I was a child, I used to go to the Kingdom Hall with my mother and brother. As I got older, my opinions about this so-called Christian organization has changed. Right now, I am inactive because of their holier-than-thou attitude. Keep up the good work and when I heard about Silentlambs, I knew that they have hit an all-time low especially about child molesting. Let's stop this madness and hypocrisy now.

man711 Thursday, January 31, 2008
@ 7:56 AM

Cara, What you did was the right thing! I find it appalling what they did! All the elders in that congregation should be removed. They have shown themselves to be just the opposite of what Jesus followers should be like. I'm sorry for you and I will note you my personal prayers.

PCW Thursday, January 31, 2008
@ 1:11 PM
CARA
Hi, I have read your work expressing your years of pain and I am so sorry for what you have undergone. I am not surprised at how your parents handled it. One of my best friends years ago, had noticed her daughter's behavior, and learned from her seven year old daughter what the child's father was doing to her. When she reported it to the elders that her daughter sexually victimized by the child's natural father, the elders told my friend that because she was not fulfilling her wifely duties was cause of the husband's actions. The sad thing is, before my friend became associated with the witnesses, she was really out there doing badly and changed for the better after accepting the truth, married this man and got baptized. After the heavy blow to her and her daughter, she went back to her old habits. As I was just beginning to study, even then I knew it was handled wrong; the child could not defend herself and the mother had no say in the matter. Question: Whose hands are covered with blood?

Earl Thursday, January 31, 2008
@ 9:57 PM
Greeting all
It is good to see that people are telling their stories here at it helps all who have been abused to see others who understand and have been there too. It always helped me to not feel so unique by sharing my story with other victims. I was able to reach my brother who is a jw with some Silentlambs information. He told me that he is the only one in the congregation with such information. I think he now believes me about the cover up of much evil in the Org. Actually he had an incident that the elders would not take care of and they actually dug up some dirt on him from over thirty years ago as a way to shut him up I suppose. After he told me about that I said that is typical of how the elders handle things and if he gets a chance to use a computer to come here and read the stories. My heart goes out to all of the abused and though we can not erase the past hurts I am encouraged that we can heal and can get this information out there and possibly make a difference in some Silent Lambs life. Keep up the good work and expose the works of darkness and evil. Blessings:)