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| ME |
Tuesday, October 7, 2008 @ 3:18 PM |
Interview with Bill Bowen A phone interview was just conducted with Bill Bowen who was,
at about 1:40 PM today, October 7, 2008, on a lay-over of
about 3 hours at an airport in New Jersey.
He says Watchtowerites in France called him Le Bete Noir
which can be translated as the Boogey Man as they are so
furious over his exposing the fact that they shield
pedophiles. The efforts of France-based friends helping
Silentlambs will be reverberating for years to come.
Poignantly, he laid flowers and a symbolic lamb upon the
grave of Joelle Daouas, a young Jehovah's Witness who
committed suicide one month after filing a police report
about being raped by one of the "brothers" among JWs whom
the Watchtower doesn't want unsuspecting JWs to know
about.
There will definitely be photos going up on Silentlambs.org
of this.
In fact some 1,000 photos were taken by Bill while he was
in France, and he will be releasing at least some of those
on the website at http://www.silentlambs.org where you can
see them when they become available.
He was asked about a French newspaper's saying one-third
of JW kids are at risk of being molested by pedophiles in
JWs or even have been molested, and he noted that he himself
did not say that.
It appears that this may have been what some other person
such as the French news writer interpreted from data or
information to mean.
Outstandingly, too, there will be two documentaries on the
sexual coverup crisis. One will be in and focused upon
France. The other will be a Belgium production.
He described the efforts of Silentlambs, other helpful
groups and the government in France as a definite success.
Since 1972 Watchtower has told its Bodies Of Elders they
need not delete fellow Elders who confess to pedophilia
provided several years (2-3) have passed and the
pedophile Elders appear to still have "Jehovah's
blessing," which means if the non-Elder JWs are not
aware.
So, certainly not all JW Elders are pedophiles, but those
who are have been accumulating since 1972, igniting the
crisis that is worldwide. Such pedophiles are nearly 100%
likely to re-offend and they also most often have numerous
victims. |
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| M.A.N. |
Monday, October 6, 2008 @ 7:58 PM |
Hi everyone I forgot to include a few scriptures that abuse victims can
use whenever they've been attacked and the elders tell them
there must be two Witnesses. In the Mosaic law, only
ONE witness was needed to take the man into custody. You
can find the verses in Deut. 22:25-27. This clearly states
that if the female was unable to scream, or in today's
scenarios, unable to call for help, the man should die AND
TO THE WOMEN NOTHING WAS TO BE DONE!!!! That means NO
Gestapo questions, NO intimate details being asked for, No
judgments by men who barely finished high school and know
NOTHING about psychology or girls in general for that
matter. Why does any elder need to know the details?? All
elders, no matter what state they live in, should report
all child abuse accusations to the police. It is a crime,
and elders are NOT lawyers and they are NOT cops, and they
are NOT therapists. How many people who have a college
education have to tell you elder lurkers that you don't
speak for God, never did, and never will. Abuse, as I said,
is a crime, period. It's a sin in most societies, but in
some it is not. How would the elders handle a case of child
abuse if some tribal rules had been allowing it for
centuries? The WT even sent a letter to a body of elders
here in Florida who wanted to know if they could baptize a
fugitive wanted for murder. The WT said yes and they
weren't obligated to tell the police. What do any of you
think of a religion that has elders who hide wanted
fugitives?? That's a crime. How far will these ego-maniacal
and mentally ill men go before they are taken down? And we
all thought only pedophiles were in our midst. Now we might
meet up with a few murderers that the elders have decided
not to report. Who made the elders a parole board?
This is truly frightening. The WT deserves every bit of
trouble they receive in
the world: non-recognition, taken to court over taxes and
lies and the blood issue, being sued for pedophiles, and
the list goes on.
The WT sounds more like a criminal
organization each day.
How would God view this "reproach on
Jehovah's name" that they keep belly-aching over??? |
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| DJL |
Monday, October 6, 2008 @ 7:05 PM |
Abuse is in Other groups also Again to Repeat This is not the only Religious Group That
has been taken to Task on Sexual Abuse.
More is needed to Protect children.
God Bless. |
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| M.A.N. |
Monday, October 6, 2008 @ 8:44 AM |
Hi to all First, I'd like to say hi to everyone, especially the new
people that I've seen posting here. I'm very glad you can
all find comfort on this site. We are all human, and
although I've never seen anyone complain about helping, I'm
sure those who have done a good deal of work to maintain
this site and keep it focused and containing a tremendous
amount of information are encouraged by your responses. I
don't know some of you, but I've been posting almost since
this site began. My own daughter was a victim of a known
pedophile (known to the elders AND HIS WIFE). I could see
how some elders who love power would obey the WTS and cover
things up, I will NEVER understand how a woman, herself a
mother, could have chosen NOT to warn us that her husband
was a child abuser while she knew he was working in own
home. I obtained a degree in Psych to work in this field,
but also to be able to heal from what happened. The point
I'm making is that the known cases are just the tip of the
iceberg. I know every week that Bill learns new things and
I know I do. Just when I say, "These people in NYC are
perverts and animals, now I've heard it all" they then go
and do something 3 times as bad. I can't open a therapy
office for victims of the WT's policies, but I will always
try to help here if someone posts a question or needs help.
I'm saying this because sometimes victims are afraid that a
counselor doesn't have a clue as to what they suffered.
It's true I can't imagine it like it happened, but I have
my child's experiences to draw from. If anyone is reading
the posts here and has a question or just needs a word of
encouragement, PLEASE don't hesitate to participate. All of
us who have helped people in some way are more than willing
to help anyone at all, no matter what religion you are nor
how old you are. And again, I wish Bill every success on
his trip and in all his future activities. My best to all.
M.A.N. |
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| Julio |
Sunday, October 5, 2008 @ 8:22 AM |
Like the Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses tolerate immoral sex Watchtower (a.k.a Jehovah's Witnesses) follow Satan's
practices when hiding child abuse practices. They are a
mirror image of the Catholics in this regard. |
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| Kindra |
Saturday, October 4, 2008 @ 11:22 PM |
Kudos I watched your videos and am proud that you do the work you
do. May God bless you in many ways. |
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| M.A.N. |
Friday, October 3, 2008 @ 5:18 PM |
Re: protesting Thanks for the info. Of course I'm very proud of Bill and
everyone who has marched or held outdoor meetings. I was
only thinking of when Bill had that meeting outside a WT
building and the JW's inside tried to pretend nothing was
happening on the sidewalk. They were evading questions and
many wouldn't touch the stuffed lambs being given out. I
just couldn't picture them pouring out into the street with
all the press there. It then seemed strange to get the idea
that they tried to hinder what Bill is doing now in Europe.
I'm thankful that the world is seeing yet more WT tactics
and lies. It only serves to prove to more people every day
that Silent Lambs is legitimate and the WT is a sick cult.
Thank you again. |
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| ME |
Friday, October 3, 2008 @ 1:47 PM |
Photo of SL/Bill Bowen In Brussels JWs do sometimes march with protest signs etc; did so lots
more back in the mid-1900s. There's a photo of Bill in
France now at http://www.christianwitnesses.com He and
other Silentlambs supporters are holding the SL banner at
the European Union Parliament in Brussels, Belgium. |
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| M.A.N. |
Thursday, October 2, 2008 @ 2:24 PM |
A question Why are JW's publicly protesting anything?? I thought it
was WT policy to ignore any and all accusations in the
street and to stay out of demonstrations. Don't they have a
policy about not joining a union picket line and had to
deal with the question whether JW's in a union had to go
through the picket line and show up for work if a judge
ordered it, even though their fellow workers might harm
them? I don't understand why ANY JW would go out in the
street and fight on our level. The most obvious fact is
that they cannot win and they will look very stupid (not
hard for them to do at all anymore) denying something that
the whole world knows is true about them. And that fact is
they support pedophiles and protect them if it's in their
best interest to do so. If I were the gov't., I'd arrest
the whole gang of them, throw them in jail, and refuse
bail. Maybe they'd start acting morally right for a change
and admit they harbor child abusers. |
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| A Friend Of Bill & The Silentlambs |
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 @ 11:15 PM |
News From France; Hornets Nest Astir The following is on (website url removed) and is the
first news out of France on Bill's trip over there. A
hornets' nest is buzzing. Watchtower apparently thought
they'd get a thousand JWs to protest against him but the
police say the most they could muster was 600. Watchtower
is discovering that not even JW members want to support
them on this.
SILENTLAMBS IN ACTION IN FRANCE!
Epinal, October 1 2008 (AFB) - 600 to 1,000 Jehovah's
Witnesses in Vosges protest accusations of pedophilia
http://www.la-
croix.com/afp.static/pages/081001170037.3yeeo1q0.htm
Some 600 Jehovah’s Witnesses, according to the police
force, a thousand according to organizers, protested
Wednesday afternoon before the prefecture (government
offices) of the Vosges (French state/province) at Epinal
against charges of pedophilia that have been brought
against them. The participants denounced the "serious
charges of disinformation for harming Jehovah’s Witnesses
and preventing construction of a house of worship at
Deyvillers (Vosges)," explained Guy Canonici, president of
the Christian federation of Jehovah’s Witnesses upon
leaving a meeting at the prefecture at 18:00 hours.
"It is the drop of water which makes the vase overflow.
We’ve heard criticisms for many years. But this, this is
too much!" Said Mr. Canonici who was indignant. The
Jehovah’s Witnesses are caught up in many difficulties
with Deyvillers, a village of 1,400 close to Epinal where
they bought ground to build a "Kingdom Hall" of 1,500
seating units with a parking lot of 500 units. A Defense
Association of The Environment of Deyvillers (Aded), has
brought together 400 members, fighting since 2004 to
prevent the construction of this place of worship, the
building permit of which is currently blocked by the town
hall of the commune.
L' Aded on Wednesday evening invited in Bill Bowen, a
former official in this religious movement in the United
States who became president of the association "Silent
Lambs" which denounces the silence imposed on victims of
sexual abuses within Jehovah’s Witnesses. Mr. Bowen was
received yesterday, among others, by Georges Fenech, the
president of Miviludes (the interdepartmental mission of
vigilance and fighting against cults), as has been learned
in connection with this mission.
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Wednesday, October 1, 2008 @ 12:38 PM |
To RFK and Dr. Icekareem I am sorry for all you two and many, many others have
been through at the hands of the WTBTS. It messed up my
close relationship with my sister and with the rest of her
family. I don't hate the Jehovah's Witnesses, though. I
think that they have been pulled--hook, line, and sinker into a
controlling cult. It's not really the individual JW's
fault. They
actually buy into and believe all this stupid stuff the
WTBTS pushes down their throats. I wish the JWs could see
that they have been taken advantage of by this cult and that
they have been taught a lot of ridiculous nonsense. Looking
back to years ago when I was a Witness I just shake my head
that I actually believed the things that were being poured
into my mind. When I was a Witness, I didn't know about the
terrible, horrible pedophilia problem. How can JWs sit back
and not throw fits about that heinous issue?! It's crazy,
yet I know that Witnesses in general mean well. They are
just so naive they can't see that the "truth" they believe
in is full of fallacies. I agree with you, Dr. Icekareem
that it is important to love everyone in spite of not liking
certain things about them, not liking the things they do and
say. Nothing should get in the way of love. That doesn't
mean we must like everything about these poor, misguided JWs
caught in the crazy web the WTBTS has cast over them. As
much as I love my sister and her family I don't like the
excuses they make, out of their naive and innocent
ignorance, for the WTBTS and its nonsense and often very
hurtful teachings. |
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| D.E.G |
Tuesday, September 30, 2008 @ 9:01 AM |
all of them I am grateful that Bill Bowen has & is doing this for the
victims who need a voice.. I do follow every coverage
that he does & I do want to say he is doing a GREAT job..
Keep it up Bill.. By the way Derrick & Darlene { who is
us } are saying Good Luck to you in France. Come home to
us safe & we are praying for your safe return & the family
as well who needs the support.. |
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| KLS |
Monday, September 29, 2008 @ 4:25 PM |
Re: Numbers You are correct in that there are almost 7 million
witnesses, but that is baptized publishers only. That
number does not include the children. At all. Period. So
the actual number is close 12 million. It's the 5 million
unbaptized infants thru teens that are the victims, and of
course they are left out of the numbers. |
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| DR. ICEKAREEM |
Monday, September 29, 2008 @ 8:25 AM |
CAN RELATE TO YOUR PAIN, LFK I know that there are still alot of ill feelings,
resentment and hostility toward the organization. Please
don't take on the same mentality of those who oppress you.
Be thankful that you are not spiritually blind. Being an
African-American male, I get so tired of hearing how we
are still being "enslaved." My wife's extended family are
almost all "Witnesses". It is tearing my family apart
also. I've learned that even though I don't like someone,
I have to love everybody! While we were yet sinners,
Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8) Be blessed! |
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| LFK |
Sunday, September 28, 2008 @ 3:26 PM |
family jehovah's witnesses tore my family apart. i do not really
know what to say. I hate them!! |
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Friday, September 26, 2008 @ 3:48 PM |
To DJB Thank you for the information about the article in the
Oprah magazine! I know a man who was sexually molested as a
young child and on into his teen years. He was actually
raped by his father at the age of four and sexually fondled
by his mother, and I guess one of his uncles also molested
him. This man is really messed up and so, of course, has
had tremendous problems recognizing appropriate boundaries
with women and children. This is another tragic example of
what can happen to men who were living under such horrid,
heinous abuse as children! Thank you again for sharing the
information about the article! It sounds very educational,
and I'm sure it can really help people understand better
what makes these men so crazy messed up. |
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| DJB |
Thursday, September 25, 2008 @ 9:19 PM |
New Article !!! It talked about when men were sexually abused as children
and the effects on the whole family. It was in the new
Oprah magazine. Some who told their experiences were apart
of the group CHAPS. It really showed how long term the
effects are on everyone...friends and family...I thought it
was very informative. I thought everyone would like to
know. DJB |
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| ME |
Thursday, September 25, 2008 @ 12:53 AM |
Bill Bowen going to Europe Hi, Bill! Once again, great to hear you're about to fly
over to France to help there and in Belgium!
Go get 'em, Silentlambs! |
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| DJB |
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 10:15 PM |
Numbers??? We must not forget there are almost 7 million witnesses so
23800 plus could be... approximately 2 per congregation we
once figured out and really looking at it this way I figure
the figures are actually higher as not all are reported...DJB |
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| Louis |
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 6:07 PM |
SB's comment was awesome I really appreciate the comment from SB. Anytime a
religion has a huge problem there usually other areas they
have problems with. SB, keep on posting here. It was an
excellent post. |
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| M.A.N. |
Saturday, September 20, 2008 @ 9:54 AM |
To man711 and everyone man711: I wanted to apologize to you for including your
name in my comment's heading. I should NOT have mentioned
your name at all. It wasn't necessary since I know you read
the posts. If you thought it applied, you were free to look
at things from a different angle. But it wasn't necessary
to put you on the spot. I do think you contribute many
valuable comments. I sometimes forget that everyone who
posts here wasn't necessarily a victim or knew a victim. In
my case, of course, it's my daughter that I agonize for
every day. I'm not perfect (ask my ex-wife if you want
proof) and I'm sure I have let my feathers get ruffled a
little more than necessary due to my frustration with the
WT, its lies, the DF's, the suicides, slandering good
people, attacking and suing web sites like this in order to
bother or hurt Bill, and the list goes on. And not everyone
took courses in psychology, so I shouldn't expect everyone
to know everything that I learned. It took me ten years
with 2 or 3 hours a day of research to learn what I now
know. Like most people, I had a lot of anger in the
beginning. But that is part of the process. I'll try to
list the five or six steps and how victims can heal in my
next post. Again, I always try to be positive and never
hurt anyone. Thank you. |
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| man711 |
Thursday, September 18, 2008 @ 1:48 PM |
M.A.N. Perhaps you are right as women that suffer abuse tend to
become sexually promiscuous and dress inappropriately. My
own ex wive was is an example as she was abused, prior to
being a witness. So I guess I should have thought it out
more. |
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 @ 1:57 PM |
To Earl and M.A.N. You two sure made some thought provoking comments!
Food for thought. I wanted to let you know how much I
appreciated your posts! Great comments! |
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 @ 1:47 PM |
To SB Thank you for sharing your experience and for
investigating the JWs! I wish more people would do this and
see for themselves, first hand, what is going with Jehovah's
Witnesses and in their Kingdom Halls. I wonder how children
and teenagers feel and what they think about the way some
Witness women are dressing. It must be confusing for them
considering what JWs preach to the public about how they are
above reproach! I wish the media would get more involved in
investigatory research of the WTBTS and their power over the
"rank and file" and their influence on how elders deal with
pedophilia. It is just awful, and I feel frustrated that
there is not more media coverage on it! Your post was very
helpful. You are not even a Witness, but you took the time
to check out things for yourself, on your own. I have heard
about other people visiting Kingdom Halls and not being paid
any attention to! That, too, is awful. In fact, years ago
when I was still a JW I saw a mother and her children
standing in the back of the Kingdom Hall. No one approached
them, and one of the children was crying. It was
heartbreaking! Again, I wish there was more media coverage
on the pedophilia among JWs. I wish they would sit up and
take notice! I would like to see Larry King interview some
victims! Thanks again for your post. Silentlambs, thanks
to Bill Bowens, has helped and given support to so many
victims! |
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008 @ 1:19 PM |
To man711 Sorry! Part of the reason I wanted to bring up attire
is because children have been blamed for their own sexual
abuse by elders saying that maybe they asked for it by being
provocative and seductive. Huh?! Pedophiles have been
known for blaming what they do to children on the children,
which is just so ridiculous and cowardly. The children are
just being children! They don't know anything about
seducing, or what it is even! Besides, as adults, as the
grownups, the pedophiles need to accept that they are
responsible for what they do or don't do to children The
pedophiles are the power figures, the ones in control, so
passing the buck to the kids is nothing short of totally
mean and cowardly! These pedophiles have no one to blame but
themselves! But, I'm sorry if I wasn't more clear about
this in my post. I'll try to be more careful from now on. |
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