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1-25 Of 1168 Entries In The Guest Book [Next 25 Guests] ME Tuesday, October 7, 2008 @ 3:18 PM Interview with Bill Bowen A phone interview was just conducted with Bill Bowen who was, at about 1:40 PM today, October 7, 2008, on a lay-over of about 3 hours at an airport in New Jersey. He says Watchtowerites in France called him Le Bete Noir which can be translated as the Boogey Man as they are so furious over his exposing the fact that they shield pedophiles. The efforts of France-based friends helping Silentlambs will be reverberating for years to come. Poignantly, he laid flowers and a symbolic lamb upon the grave of Joelle Daouas, a young Jehovah's Witness who committed suicide one month after filing a police report about being raped by one of the "brothers" among JWs whom the Watchtower doesn't want unsuspecting JWs to know about. There will definitely be photos going up on Silentlambs.org of this. In fact some 1,000 photos were taken by Bill while he was in France, and he will be releasing at least some of those on the website at http://www.silentlambs.org where you can see them when they become available. He was asked about a French newspaper's saying one-third of JW kids are at risk of being molested by pedophiles in JWs or even have been molested, and he noted that he himself did not say that. It appears that this may have been what some other person such as the French news writer interpreted from data or information to mean. Outstandingly, too, there will be two documentaries on the sexual coverup crisis. One will be in and focused upon France. The other will be a Belgium production. He described the efforts of Silentlambs, other helpful groups and the government in France as a definite success. Since 1972 Watchtower has told its Bodies Of Elders they need not delete fellow Elders who confess to pedophilia provided several years (2-3) have passed and the pedophile Elders appear to still have "Jehovah's blessing," which means if the non-Elder JWs are not aware. So, certainly not all JW Elders are pedophiles, but those who are have been accumulating since 1972, igniting the crisis that is worldwide. Such pedophiles are nearly 100% likely to re-offend and they also most often have numerous victims. M.A.N. Monday, October 6, 2008 @ 7:58 PM Hi everyone I forgot to include a few scriptures that abuse victims can use whenever they've been attacked and the elders tell them there must be two Witnesses. In the Mosaic law, only ONE witness was needed to take the man into custody. You can find the verses in Deut. 22:25-27. This clearly states that if the female was unable to scream, or in today's scenarios, unable to call for help, the man should die AND TO THE WOMEN NOTHING WAS TO BE DONE!!!! That means NO Gestapo questions, NO intimate details being asked for, No judgments by men who barely finished high school and know NOTHING about psychology or girls in general for that matter. Why does any elder need to know the details?? All elders, no matter what state they live in, should report all child abuse accusations to the police. It is a crime, and elders are NOT lawyers and they are NOT cops, and they are NOT therapists. How many people who have a college education have to tell you elder lurkers that you don't speak for God, never did, and never will. Abuse, as I said, is a crime, period. It's a sin in most societies, but in some it is not. How would the elders handle a case of child abuse if some tribal rules had been allowing it for centuries? The WT even sent a letter to a body of elders here in Florida who wanted to know if they could baptize a fugitive wanted for murder. The WT said yes and they weren't obligated to tell the police. What do any of you think of a religion that has elders who hide wanted fugitives?? That's a crime. How far will these ego-maniacal and mentally ill men go before they are taken down? And we all thought only pedophiles were in our midst. Now we might meet up with a few murderers that the elders have decided not to report. Who made the elders a parole board? This is truly frightening. The WT deserves every bit of trouble they receive in the world: non-recognition, taken to court over taxes and lies and the blood issue, being sued for pedophiles, and the list goes on. The WT sounds more like a criminal organization each day. How would God view this "reproach on Jehovah's name" that they keep belly-aching over??? DJL Monday, October 6, 2008 @ 7:05 PM Abuse is in Other groups also Again to Repeat This is not the only Religious Group That has been taken to Task on Sexual Abuse. More is needed to Protect children. God Bless. M.A.N. Monday, October 6, 2008 @ 8:44 AM Hi to all First, I'd like to say hi to everyone, especially the new people that I've seen posting here. I'm very glad you can all find comfort on this site. We are all human, and although I've never seen anyone complain about helping, I'm sure those who have done a good deal of work to maintain this site and keep it focused and containing a tremendous amount of information are encouraged by your responses. I don't know some of you, but I've been posting almost since this site began. My own daughter was a victim of a known pedophile (known to the elders AND HIS WIFE). I could see how some elders who love power would obey the WTS and cover things up, I will NEVER understand how a woman, herself a mother, could have chosen NOT to warn us that her husband was a child abuser while she knew he was working in own home. I obtained a degree in Psych to work in this field, but also to be able to heal from what happened. The point I'm making is that the known cases are just the tip of the iceberg. I know every week that Bill learns new things and I know I do. Just when I say, "These people in NYC are perverts and animals, now I've heard it all" they then go and do something 3 times as bad. I can't open a therapy office for victims of the WT's policies, but I will always try to help here if someone posts a question or needs help. I'm saying this because sometimes victims are afraid that a counselor doesn't have a clue as to what they suffered. It's true I can't imagine it like it happened, but I have my child's experiences to draw from. If anyone is reading the posts here and has a question or just needs a word of encouragement, PLEASE don't hesitate to participate. All of us who have helped people in some way are more than willing to help anyone at all, no matter what religion you are nor how old you are. And again, I wish Bill every success on his trip and in all his future activities. My best to all. M.A.N. Julio Sunday, October 5, 2008 @ 8:22 AM Like the Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses tolerate immoral sex Watchtower (a.k.a Jehovah's Witnesses) follow Satan's practices when hiding child abuse practices. They are a mirror image of the Catholics in this regard. Kindra Saturday, October 4, 2008 @ 11:22 PM Kudos I watched your videos and am proud that you do the work you do. May God bless you in many ways. M.A.N. Friday, October 3, 2008 @ 5:18 PM Re: protesting Thanks for the info. Of course I'm very proud of Bill and everyone who has marched or held outdoor meetings. I was only thinking of when Bill had that meeting outside a WT building and the JW's inside tried to pretend nothing was happening on the sidewalk. They were evading questions and many wouldn't touch the stuffed lambs being given out. I just couldn't picture them pouring out into the street with all the press there. It then seemed strange to get the idea that they tried to hinder what Bill is doing now in Europe. I'm thankful that the world is seeing yet more WT tactics and lies. It only serves to prove to more people every day that Silent Lambs is legitimate and the WT is a sick cult. Thank you again. ME Friday, October 3, 2008 @ 1:47 PM Photo of SL/Bill Bowen In Brussels JWs do sometimes march with protest signs etc; did so lots more back in the mid-1900s. There's a photo of Bill in France now at http://www.christianwitnesses.com He and other Silentlambs supporters are holding the SL banner at the European Union Parliament in Brussels, Belgium. M.A.N. Thursday, October 2, 2008 @ 2:24 PM A question Why are JW's publicly protesting anything?? I thought it was WT policy to ignore any and all accusations in the street and to stay out of demonstrations. Don't they have a policy about not joining a union picket line and had to deal with the question whether JW's in a union had to go through the picket line and show up for work if a judge ordered it, even though their fellow workers might harm them? I don't understand why ANY JW would go out in the street and fight on our level. The most obvious fact is that they cannot win and they will look very stupid (not hard for them to do at all anymore) denying something that the whole world knows is true about them. And that fact is they support pedophiles and protect them if it's in their best interest to do so. If I were the gov't., I'd arrest the whole gang of them, throw them in jail, and refuse bail. Maybe they'd start acting morally right for a change and admit they harbor child abusers. A Friend Of Bill & The Silentlambs Wednesday, October 1, 2008 @ 11:15 PM News From France; Hornets Nest Astir The following is on (website url removed) and is the first news out of France on Bill's trip over there. A hornets' nest is buzzing. Watchtower apparently thought they'd get a thousand JWs to protest against him but the police say the most they could muster was 600. Watchtower is discovering that not even JW members want to support them on this. SILENTLAMBS IN ACTION IN FRANCE! Epinal, October 1 2008 (AFB) - 600 to 1,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Vosges protest accusations of pedophilia http://www.la- croix.com/afp.static/pages/081001170037.3yeeo1q0.htm Some 600 Jehovah’s Witnesses, according to the police force, a thousand according to organizers, protested Wednesday afternoon before the prefecture (government offices) of the Vosges (French state/province) at Epinal against charges of pedophilia that have been brought against them. The participants denounced the "serious charges of disinformation for harming Jehovah’s Witnesses and preventing construction of a house of worship at Deyvillers (Vosges)," explained Guy Canonici, president of the Christian federation of Jehovah’s Witnesses upon leaving a meeting at the prefecture at 18:00 hours. "It is the drop of water which makes the vase overflow. We’ve heard criticisms for many years. But this, this is too much!" Said Mr. Canonici who was indignant. The Jehovah’s Witnesses are caught up in many difficulties with Deyvillers, a village of 1,400 close to Epinal where they bought ground to build a "Kingdom Hall" of 1,500 seating units with a parking lot of 500 units. A Defense Association of The Environment of Deyvillers (Aded), has brought together 400 members, fighting since 2004 to prevent the construction of this place of worship, the building permit of which is currently blocked by the town hall of the commune. L' Aded on Wednesday evening invited in Bill Bowen, a former official in this religious movement in the United States who became president of the association "Silent Lambs" which denounces the silence imposed on victims of sexual abuses within Jehovah’s Witnesses. Mr. Bowen was received yesterday, among others, by Georges Fenech, the president of Miviludes (the interdepartmental mission of vigilance and fighting against cults), as has been learned in connection with this mission. Wednesday, October 1, 2008 @ 12:38 PM To RFK and Dr. Icekareem I am sorry for all you two and many, many others have been through at the hands of the WTBTS. It messed up my close relationship with my sister and with the rest of her family. I don't hate the Jehovah's Witnesses, though. I think that they have been pulled--hook, line, and sinker into a controlling cult. It's not really the individual JW's fault. They actually buy into and believe all this stupid stuff the WTBTS pushes down their throats. I wish the JWs could see that they have been taken advantage of by this cult and that they have been taught a lot of ridiculous nonsense. Looking back to years ago when I was a Witness I just shake my head that I actually believed the things that were being poured into my mind. When I was a Witness, I didn't know about the terrible, horrible pedophilia problem. How can JWs sit back and not throw fits about that heinous issue?! It's crazy, yet I know that Witnesses in general mean well. They are just so naive they can't see that the "truth" they believe in is full of fallacies. I agree with you, Dr. Icekareem that it is important to love everyone in spite of not liking certain things about them, not liking the things they do and say. Nothing should get in the way of love. That doesn't mean we must like everything about these poor, misguided JWs caught in the crazy web the WTBTS has cast over them. As much as I love my sister and her family I don't like the excuses they make, out of their naive and innocent ignorance, for the WTBTS and its nonsense and often very hurtful teachings. D.E.G Tuesday, September 30, 2008 @ 9:01 AM all of them I am grateful that Bill Bowen has & is doing this for the victims who need a voice.. I do follow every coverage that he does & I do want to say he is doing a GREAT job.. Keep it up Bill.. By the way Derrick & Darlene { who is us } are saying Good Luck to you in France. Come home to us safe & we are praying for your safe return & the family as well who needs the support.. KLS Monday, September 29, 2008 @ 4:25 PM Re: Numbers You are correct in that there are almost 7 million witnesses, but that is baptized publishers only. That number does not include the children. At all. Period. So the actual number is close 12 million. It's the 5 million unbaptized infants thru teens that are the victims, and of course they are left out of the numbers. DR. ICEKAREEM Monday, September 29, 2008 @ 8:25 AM CAN RELATE TO YOUR PAIN, LFK I know that there are still alot of ill feelings, resentment and hostility toward the organization. Please don't take on the same mentality of those who oppress you. Be thankful that you are not spiritually blind. Being an African-American male, I get so tired of hearing how we are still being "enslaved." My wife's extended family are almost all "Witnesses". It is tearing my family apart also. I've learned that even though I don't like someone, I have to love everybody! While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8) Be blessed! LFK Sunday, September 28, 2008 @ 3:26 PM family jehovah's witnesses tore my family apart. i do not really know what to say. I hate them!! Friday, September 26, 2008 @ 3:48 PM To DJB Thank you for the information about the article in the Oprah magazine! I know a man who was sexually molested as a young child and on into his teen years. He was actually raped by his father at the age of four and sexually fondled by his mother, and I guess one of his uncles also molested him. This man is really messed up and so, of course, has had tremendous problems recognizing appropriate boundaries with women and children. This is another tragic example of what can happen to men who were living under such horrid, heinous abuse as children! Thank you again for sharing the information about the article! It sounds very educational, and I'm sure it can really help people understand better what makes these men so crazy messed up. DJB Thursday, September 25, 2008 @ 9:19 PM New Article !!! It talked about when men were sexually abused as children and the effects on the whole family. It was in the new Oprah magazine. Some who told their experiences were apart of the group CHAPS. It really showed how long term the effects are on everyone...friends and family...I thought it was very informative. I thought everyone would like to know. DJB ME Thursday, September 25, 2008 @ 12:53 AM Bill Bowen going to Europe Hi, Bill! Once again, great to hear you're about to fly over to France to help there and in Belgium! Go get 'em, Silentlambs! DJB Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 10:15 PM Numbers??? We must not forget there are almost 7 million witnesses so 23800 plus could be... approximately 2 per congregation we once figured out and really looking at it this way I figure the figures are actually higher as not all are reported...DJB Louis Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 6:07 PM SB's comment was awesome I really appreciate the comment from SB. Anytime a religion has a huge problem there usually other areas they have problems with. SB, keep on posting here. It was an excellent post. M.A.N. Saturday, September 20, 2008 @ 9:54 AM To man711 and everyone man711: I wanted to apologize to you for including your name in my comment's heading. I should NOT have mentioned your name at all. It wasn't necessary since I know you read the posts. If you thought it applied, you were free to look at things from a different angle. But it wasn't necessary to put you on the spot. I do think you contribute many valuable comments. I sometimes forget that everyone who posts here wasn't necessarily a victim or knew a victim. In my case, of course, it's my daughter that I agonize for every day. I'm not perfect (ask my ex-wife if you want proof) and I'm sure I have let my feathers get ruffled a little more than necessary due to my frustration with the WT, its lies, the DF's, the suicides, slandering good people, attacking and suing web sites like this in order to bother or hurt Bill, and the list goes on. And not everyone took courses in psychology, so I shouldn't expect everyone to know everything that I learned. It took me ten years with 2 or 3 hours a day of research to learn what I now know. Like most people, I had a lot of anger in the beginning. But that is part of the process. I'll try to list the five or six steps and how victims can heal in my next post. Again, I always try to be positive and never hurt anyone. Thank you. man711 Thursday, September 18, 2008 @ 1:48 PM M.A.N. Perhaps you are right as women that suffer abuse tend to become sexually promiscuous and dress inappropriately. My own ex wive was is an example as she was abused, prior to being a witness. So I guess I should have thought it out more. Wednesday, September 17, 2008 @ 1:57 PM To Earl and M.A.N. You two sure made some thought provoking comments! Food for thought. I wanted to let you know how much I appreciated your posts! Great comments! Wednesday, September 17, 2008 @ 1:47 PM To SB Thank you for sharing your experience and for investigating the JWs! I wish more people would do this and see for themselves, first hand, what is going with Jehovah's Witnesses and in their Kingdom Halls. I wonder how children and teenagers feel and what they think about the way some Witness women are dressing. It must be confusing for them considering what JWs preach to the public about how they are above reproach! I wish the media would get more involved in investigatory research of the WTBTS and their power over the "rank and file" and their influence on how elders deal with pedophilia. It is just awful, and I feel frustrated that there is not more media coverage on it! Your post was very helpful. You are not even a Witness, but you took the time to check out things for yourself, on your own. I have heard about other people visiting Kingdom Halls and not being paid any attention to! That, too, is awful. In fact, years ago when I was still a JW I saw a mother and her children standing in the back of the Kingdom Hall. No one approached them, and one of the children was crying. It was heartbreaking! Again, I wish there was more media coverage on the pedophilia among JWs. I wish they would sit up and take notice! I would like to see Larry King interview some victims! Thanks again for your post. Silentlambs, thanks to Bill Bowens, has helped and given support to so many victims! Wednesday, September 17, 2008 @ 1:19 PM To man711 Sorry! Part of the reason I wanted to bring up attire is because children have been blamed for their own sexual abuse by elders saying that maybe they asked for it by being provocative and seductive. Huh?! Pedophiles have been known for blaming what they do to children on the children, which is just so ridiculous and cowardly. The children are just being children! They don't know anything about seducing, or what it is even! Besides, as adults, as the grownups, the pedophiles need to accept that they are responsible for what they do or don't do to children The pedophiles are the power figures, the ones in control, so passing the buck to the kids is nothing short of totally mean and cowardly! These pedophiles have no one to blame but themselves! But, I'm sorry if I wasn't more clear about this in my post. I'll try to be more careful from now on. Please Sign Our Guest Book [Next 25 Guests]

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